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Originally posted by Juntai
LT isn't all that impressive, and little to no feats to back him.


Yeah but he has dominion over the multiverse. Apparently Thanos with the HOTU is above that. He was essentially God at that point.

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Yeah but he has dominion over the multiverse. Apparently Thanos with the HOTU is above that. He was essentially God at that point.
That's still just speculation. The son of Superman and Wonder Woman has dominion over Hypertime, but being more powerful than him doesn't make you mightier than The Presence.


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Originally posted by Juntai
That's still just speculation.


Actually it's not. It's been implied on panel many times. And he was able to put a stop to the IG and Starbrand (multiversal threat). So that puts him over the multiverse, which Thanos with the HOTU would destroy for fun.

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But as pointed out, he mistakenly thought the same thing about obtaining the Infinity Gauntlet. He thought his power rivaled god itself.


But didn't back that up (and with IG with don't even know if he could defeat LT), with HOTU he did back it up and destroy everything without trouble.


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Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Actually it's not. It's been implied on panel many times. And he was able to put a stop to the IG and Starbrand (multiversal threat). So that puts him over the multiverse, which Thanos with the HOTU would destroy for fun.
It's still completely speculation that Thanos with HOTU is equal to God of the Marvel U. It's assumed by fanboys and by Thanos [who mistakenly assumed he was equal to god before anyways.], but there's no evidence to support it. As I've said- the Son of Superman and WonderWoman became Guardian of Hypertime, but beating him doesn't make you The Presence.


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But didn't back that up (and with IG with don't even know if he could defeat LT), with HOTU he did back it up and destroy everything without trouble.
And given that Parallax/Hal was able to destroy everything, and Kyle merged that powersource with another to amplify it, we're led to believe Kyle and destroy and create realities as well, but with even greater ease. There's really no evidence here that could support one character beating the other.


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Actually it's not. It's been implied on panel many times. And he was able to put a stop to the IG and Starbrand (multiversal threat). So that puts him over the multiverse, which Thanos with the HOTU would destroy for fun.


LT was only able to put a stop to the IG after Adam submitted. It was suggested on panel that he didnt have a clue if he had what it took to defeat the IG in a confrontation. He then talked Adam out of such a confrontation.

The StarBrand is NOT a multiversal threat. It was just a power from beyond the mainstream Marvel multiverse and so was unaccounted for in the multiverses closed system. Unlike with the IG LT actually stated that the StarBrand couldnt stand up to his power.

LT is multiversal in nature not power. Dont mistake his role with his power level. Roma is the omniversal guardian. Thats her role. She is still below the likes of the abstracts, she just has the jurisdiction to wipe out universes with the technology she has access to as a part of her role. Do you see the difference?


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There's really no evidence here that could support one character beating the other.


Apart from Thanos being beyond LT with it.

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LT was only able to put a stop to the IG after Adam submitted. It was suggested on panel that he didnt have a clue if he had what it took to defeat the IG in a confrontation. He then talked Adam out of such a confrontation.

The StarBrand is NOT a multiversal threat. It was just a power from beyond the mainstream Marvel multiverse and so was unaccounted for in the multiverses closed system. Unlike with th eIG LT actually stated that he StarBrand couldnt stand up to his power.

LT is multiversal in nature not power. Dont mistake his role with his power level. Roma is the omniversal guardian. Thats her role. She is still below the likes of the abstracts, she just has the jurisdiction to wipe out universes with the technology she has access to as a part of her role. Do you see the difference?
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But as pointed out, he mistakenly thought the same thing about obtaining the Infinity Gauntlet. He thought his power rivaled god itself.


You've learned well! stick out tongue Been away thanks for that track!!!


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Apart from Thanos being beyond LT with it.
Doesn't mean much, LT's feats don't back his hype.


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You've learned well!


Okay, that explains a whole lot.

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What is LT supposed to do.Go and fight to prove himself laughing


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Okay, that explains a whole lot.


Shhhh. The master has returned. Rubbish such as this will no longer be tolerated. stick out tongue


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What is LT supposed to do.Go and fight to prove himself laughing
Not neccisarily, but the few times he's been confronted have been far less than what should be expected for someone believing he's a step below god itself. He is powerful, but he's yet to prove he's the top notch.


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Did Parallax actually re-write the universe? (scans, not speculation please)


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Did Parallax actually re-write the universe? (scans, not speculation please)
He was in the process of creating a new one after destroying it all, when Spectre showed up.


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He was in the process of creating a new one after destroying it all, when Spectre showed up.


It could be interpreted that he was just going to reverse time however as he was manipulating chronal energies to achieve said feat and i can think of only one way in which they could be used to create a new universe.


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GS, you're so smart! To be honest, Galactic reshaping stuff is out of my league.


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