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Stoic
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Does the suit increse his strength? can he be pinned? What would happen if Venom webbed him up really tight like a Christmas present, carried him to the top of the Empire State building, and with all of his 15 tonne might threw him like a dart head first into the street? Would it not bust his a**? I say Venom wins... the suits all cool, and all of that, but give me a break... 900 foot fall or more moving at 650 mph or more into the ground? how many G's do you think this guy will achieve on impact? the Panther will die... remember he's pinned by webbing.


His punches won't do much damage, if Venom wanted to win this fight with no reprisals, he'll have to do what I said earlier, punches won't do much to Black Panther with his vibranium suit on... like Captain America's shield, it would absorb the damage, and effectively cushion the blow... he'd have to get some height and use Black Panther like a spear, this will definately break every bone in his body... not to sound too sadistic, but isn't that Venoms way?

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His punches won't do much damage, if Venom wanted to win this fight with no reprisals, he'll have to do what I said earlier, punches won't do much to Black Panther with his vibranium suit on... like Captain America's shield, it would absorb the damage, and effectively cushion the blow... he'd have to get some height and use Black Panther like a spear, this will definately break every bone in his body... not to sound too sadistic, but isn't that Venoms way?


It won't absorb the punch. Cap has strength to hold his shield when somebody hits him. Do you think that vibranium suit will save you if you'll be hit by a truck on the full speed? Cos Venom punch is harder than speeding truck. BP dies.


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http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prehulk2kj.jpg

The Hulk attacks Panther and he flips back unaffected. Hulk then HURLS a car at Black Panther.

http://img68.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img6...age=hulkcar.jpg

Panther robs the HURLED car of all momentum. It's useless.

http://img84.exs.cx/img84/3162/vsrhino1.jpg

Pre-Vibranium suit Panther pulls down a speeding Rhino with his BARE hands. All strength.


Panther has the strength as well as the vibranium suit to withstand such an attack. But he wouldn't need to. His suit generates sonic impulses which he'd use to disrupt Venom all the while he'd be multi-tasking having a Wakandan assault team brought in with a containment unit made of vibranium to house Venom. All he needs to do is keep him distracted and that's not difficult considering Panther's much smarter.

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Uhmmm no outside help is permitted in vs forums from what I understand... a fall from a great heat should surely do something to him, and if not I hope I can buy one of these suits. Imagine taking part in extreme sports with a suit like that.


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I haven't been reading Black Panther, I had no idea that the costume could take that kind of a beating. It looks like I'm going to have to change my opinion about this fight, and go with Black Panther winning.

Venom is tough enough to take any pounding that the Panther can dish out, but his sonics will surely hurt him... seeing as to how the Hulks punches didn't ring his bell, and all of that good stuff I don't see venoms hits hurting him either.

This could be a good fight if the Panther wanted to run some field tests on the suit, but he could shut it down as soon as he felt the fight was getting out of hand. Control of this fight goes to Black Panther.

8/10


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I haven't been reading Black Panther, I had no idea that the costume could take that kind of a beating. It looks like I'm going to have to change my opinion about this fight, and go with Black Panther winning.

Venom is tough enough to take any pounding that the Panther can dish out, but his sonics will surely hurt him... seeing as to how the Hulks punches didn't ring his bell, and all of that good stuff I don't see venoms hits hurting him either.

This could be a good fight if the Panther wanted to run some field tests on the suit, but he could shut it down as soon as he felt the fight was getting out of hand. Control of this fight goes to Black Panther.

8/10


Don't get me wrong. Black Panther's suit isn't totally indestructible. It just means he's got added durability on his part. He would still have to watch himself against Venom's attacks considering the suit doesn't prevent things like strangulation. He's just protected from a variety of blunt attacks and impact. Also the suit gives him added agility and some speed. In the end his victory would be attributed to his tech. Physically, Venom is of course vastly superior to Black Panther. T'Challa is just the smarter fighter. Read a few of Priest's Panther comics. You'll begin to realize what a bad-ass he is.

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I'll do that, by the way do you think the Panther would be a good fight for Deathstroke?


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who takes this one..... huh


I like the Black Panther character but this is absurd. In a pure man to man fight the black panther would be horribly mauled and disfigured in seconds.

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I'll do that, by the way do you think the Panther would be a good fight for Deathstroke?


No doubt. Deathstroke would probably win, but not without Panther doing some serious damage to his body and ego before he went down.

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I like the Black Panther character but this is absurd. In a pure man to man fight the black panther would be horribly mauled and disfigured in seconds.


No one stated that this was a purely hand to hand fight. So, if T'Challa is able to use all of his assets, he could win. More than likely he would win. He's defeated Ultron, The New Warriors, Mephisto, Iron Man, Hydro-Man, The Fantastic Four, Klaw on numerous occasions, Red Skull etc. Why couldn't he beat Venom who has such an easily exploited weakness?

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Biggest BP advantage here is that he according to forum rules knows everything about Venom, knows his weaknesses. That's why he has a good chance of winning this.


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No doubt. Deathstroke would probably win, but not without Panther doing some serious damage to his body and ego before he went down.


In hand to hand combat. Btw. wink

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Biggest BP advantage here is that he according to forum rules knows everything about Venom, knows his weaknesses. That's why he has a good chance of winning this.


it's not forum rules that are giving him this "unfair" advantage. he'd have it anyway. the guys one of the smartest avengers, having had access to their warehouse of information for years, and he's got information stockpiled on almost any major or minor threat back home in wakanda. i understand you're a venom fan, but cheapening t'challa as consolation for venom losing isn't right.

you'll also note in the image nathan summers provided that t'challa asked "why?" in response to an offering to call in the avengers. against the hulk. if he's willing to take on the hulk one-on-one, so much so to the point calling in the avengers just seems absurd, why wouldn't he be ready for venom?

"oh look, i single-handedly fight the hulk, i've ripped out the heart of the devil himself, and i have a plan for kicking galactus the **** off my planet if he ever shows up. but venom? oh no, how entirely unexpected and now i lose."

not likely.


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it's not forum rules that are giving him this "unfair" advantage. he'd have it anyway. the guys one of the smartest avengers, having had access to their warehouse of information for years, and he's got information stockpiled on almost any major or minor threat back home in wakanda. i understand you're a venom fan, but cheapening t'challa as consolation for venom losing isn't right.

you'll also note in the image nathan summers provided that t'challa asked "why?" in response to an offering to call in the avengers. against the hulk. if he's willing to take on the hulk one-on-one, so much so to the point calling in the avengers just seems absurd, why wouldn't he be ready for venom?

"oh look, i single-handedly fight the hulk, i've ripped out the heart of the devil himself, and i have a plan for kicking galactus the **** off my planet if he ever shows up. but venom? oh no, how entirely unexpected and now i lose."

not likely.


Yes, i'm Venom fan but that's not the reason why i say he can win.

Wanted to fight Hulk one on one? So what? Venom fough both Hulk and Juggernaut. He says he could kick Galactus a$$? It proves only that he sees himself too much.

He's smart? So what? There is no prep time here so it won't do him any good. And if you mean he's smart while fighting, it ain't helping him either coz Venom also fights smart.

Your main point is that he wins because he fought Hulk and thinks he could beat Galactus. And you're obviously BP fan.
Believe me Venom has what it takes to kill him.
No sonics, no victory for BP.


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