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Putar
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YEA! Kick his @$$! I don't know who im talking to but kick his @$$!

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Blair Wind
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well Im not sure why scoobs has not posted yet....but I have bad news. My father is cutting the cable tomorrow, which means I have no internet connection. My school wont let me on this site, and Im there from 7 am to about 9 pm (work and late college classes).....so essentially, tonight might be the last night I can actually post anything. Ill see if I can get a good strategy in though by tonight....


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Old Post Mar 28th, 2006 02:34 AM
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The finals is no fun if there's no action... we can extend it if need be, but please let us know. If it's going to be a really long time, you could turn control of your team (and whatever strategies and such you wanted to use) over to someone else to finish with.


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Blair Wind
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what the hell....heres to start it off. First off during prep Crystal works with her duplicates on her more mysterouis powers.

Here Triton mentions that her abilities are most formidable of all people there. There are guys like *Thunderstrike*, Hercules and Namor there.
http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?...crystal20fa.gif

makes everyone unstable (including thunderstrike)
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/...ture10066vc.jpg


Electricity wont work on them
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys38hm.jpg

now a total of 7 of my characters can control gravity (and 4 can control magnetism)
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys57mf.jpg

numbers are always with me:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys83wf.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys92mq.jpg

she can effect electricity:
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys107zy.jpg

hurricane force winds:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys131wm.jpg

she can control all types of energy (shown by having to create an energy flare in space):
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys150hl.jpg

she can create ice:
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys164kn.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys173qy.jpg

her seismic powers can be more than just on earth
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys186xq.jpg

blocking a shot from exodus with just a lift of her hand:
http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys194po.jpg

now the greatest ones:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crys114mf.jpg
http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crsy122gt.jpg

One of those pics was a guy in an ironman suit. She has been known to effect inside the sheilds of Invisible Women, so she can effect anything within ironmans suit.


Powerhouse and his dupes work on trying to get as much speed as possible, and developing gravity fields
also sending out energy without absorbing anything is practiced. Notice in the bio that it states that anything katie absorbs (so long as its inorganic) becomes her energy.
http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?...werpack16jq.jpg
http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?...werpack22jp.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?...werpack31ln.jpg

DB prime gets coated with powerhouses suit. The Wendigos are given rock armour spikes which enhances their already frightening claws.

Basically once I start, my crystals and powerhouses hold you back with gravity fields. Hermond wont be able to run effectively, any energy you send my way can be A) absorbed or B) manipulated. Two things other than that happen simutanously. My powerhouses rush forward (reletively faster than you because of gravity) and zero G punch your characters.

Ironman can get overeager:
http://img337.imageshack.us/my.php?...sv1009180xt.jpg

the pulse bolts dont do so well against force fields:
http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skin1j5vo.jpg

Ironman has always had trouble on the with faster characters:
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?...sol006075xe.jpg

and

http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?...emugin1a5sp.jpg
http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?...emugin1b0ts.jpg
http://img400.imageshack.us/my.php?...emugin1c1sp.jpg
http://img359.imageshack.us/my.php?...emugin1d4sj.jpg

My characters are faster when it comes to reaction speeds, and plus with the magnetic and gravity fields up there would be less movement on your part. Wendigos go in through wind control on your side and tear hermond apart. Thunderstrike can be taken on through my Powerhouses with gravity, speed, energy absorbtion, and my power bombs.

Charcoal can be manipulated by Crystal since at his base form, he is still earth isnt he plus gravity would just make it worse. He cant turn on fire either through Crystals control.


Ironman your most used weapon is going to be taking a nice little sleep considering that she can just lower his body temp rapidly from within his suit, or just burn him alive from with it as well. either way hes not going to a be problem for my Crystal who knows him and knows how to hit him. She could always offer him a beer shifty


thats should about cover it.......


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Blair Wind
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Jesus, who's feeding you all the scans?

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DarkCrawler
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God, I guess.


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Mm, ya know, somehow I doubt it.

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Scoobless
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
One of those pics was a guy in an ironman suit.


A ripped open Iron Man suit.... that scan means nothing

quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Crystal who knows him and knows how to hit him.


And he knows her:

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Countermeasures for all Avengers.... which would include Crystal
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Charcoal can be manipulated by Crystal since at his base form, he is still earth isnt he plus gravity would just make it worse. He cant turn on fire either through Crystals control.


No, he's not earth, he's a form of organic carbon

And Crystal seemed to have major problems with the fire guy in your earlier scan:

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Charcoal has all those fire powers plus a lot more.... in that same position all he would have to do would be extend his arm, grab her and crush her:

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If Captain America can't avoid it, Crystal definitely can't!
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
makes everyone unstable (including thunderstrike)
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/...ture10066vc.jpg


that's underwater.....as such it has no bearing on this fight whatsoever
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Blair Wind
Thunderstrike can be taken on through my Powerhouses with gravity, speed, energy absorption, and my power bombs.


Nah...

Your gravity wont have any substantial effect on him, especially if he's flying

TS's reaction speeds are greater than PH's .... he'll be able to tag him even in flight

Energy absorption?.... ever been used against a weapon created by Odin? .... i don't see it working against Asgardian magic

Power bombs shmower shmombs
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
DB prime gets coated with powerhouses suit. The Wendigos are given rock armour spikes which enhances their already frightening claws.


and confuses the hell out of them..... they get all riled up by the rocks and rip each other apart..... have you ever tried putting a hat on a cat? they get really pissed off..... this would be like that times a million

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
the pulse bolts dont do so well against force fields:
http://img336.imageshack.us/my.php?image=skin1j5vo.jpg


They didn't do great against MODOK's force field.... he has access to the best tech AIM has to offer..... none of your teams shield abilities even come close

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Ironman has always had trouble on the with faster characters:
http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?...sol006075xe.jpg


Cap beating Iron Man is PIS... especially since tar "blinded" him

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Here Triton mentions that her abilities are most formidable of all people there. There are guys like *Thunderstrike*, Hercules and Namor there.


Only because they are under water and she can control that water.... on land they'd all kick her ass


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An unarmed human cracking armour that's taken hits from Count Nefaria?..... i couldn't come up with a bigger example of PIS if i tried


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The best things about this fight setting are that Crystal has a very limited environment to work with and DB Prime has absolutely nowhere to hide

DB prime has no powers in this fight, and yet if he is taken out you lose over half your team's strength.... with no safe areas or hidden corners in the room he's going to be in plain sight through the whole match. All it will take is a single hit from any member of my team to KO him

Either:

A) you send a few members to protect him, thus giving away his importance.... or

B) you risk leaving him alone hoping my guys will overlook him

option A) means that a good percentage of your team's strength is taken away from the offensive battle and that you've highlighted your team's biggest weakness

option B) means that he gets killed quickly and your team is down to 1 PH 1 Crystal and 5 Wendigos that will be just as likely to attack your own team as they would mine ..... except that your guys are closer
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I can safely ignore the Wendigos for the most part, they can't fly and aren't fast enough to be a problem to anyone on my team... plus they're a mile away
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So my team advance to close the gap between us... not too fast at first and with shields up

Once we're reasonably close IM blasts all around your guys to startle/distract them while TS hurls his mace at whomever he chooses... let's say it's Power-House.... instant KO

When he drops my guys continue with the blasting to further scatter your team and take out a few dupes at the same time

Once two or three more are down, Charcoal and Thunderstrike rush in blasting all the time.... when all attention is turned to them Hermod moves around to flank... he moves so fast that he is effectively invisible... he gets in amongst your team and starts smacking people at mach speeds.... and even connects with DB Prime.... since he has no powers his head comes right off.... and the 5 duplicates disappear

Now that all you have left is Crystal and a few Wendigos, Hermod gets in amongst the Wendigos and starts laying into them.... they can't touch him so they get really angry and start attacking each other

The rest of my team concentrate their fire on Crystal.... she wouldn't last a second
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Now they all sit back and laugh as they watch the last of the Wendigos kill each other until there's only 1 left.... then Thunderstrike caves its head in with his mace
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The end, my guys win

Woo Hoo

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Originally posted by Scoobless

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Countermeasures for all Avengers.... which would include Crystal


I'm not trying to interfere with the match , but to simply point out that that scan is bullshit. I'd like to see Tony deal with Wanda , he'd get thrashed so bad it wouldn't be funny.....


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And has Crystal ever been on same Avengers team with Tony?


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Originally posted by grey fox
I'm not trying to interfere with the match , but to simply point out that that scan is bullshit. I'd like to see Tony deal with Wanda , he'd get thrashed so bad it wouldn't be funny.....


Maybe these days.... but back when she only had crappy hex spheres he'd kill her

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And has Crystal ever been on same Avengers team with Tony?


Yes


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Originally posted by Scoobless
A ripped open Iron Man suit.... that scan means nothing




It proves that she can manipulate you from the inside out. Yes it does prove something. It means I can manipulate your temp, make your heart rate go down, and/or fry your ass in your own suit. Simple as that.

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And he knows her:

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Countermeasures for all Avengers.... which would include Crystal


please. Indirect mention (if she is even included) provides no concrete evidence that he has countermeasures for her.


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No, he's not earth, he's a form of organic carbon

And Crystal seemed to have major problems with the fire guy in your earlier scan:

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Charcoal has all those fire powers plus a lot more.... in that same position all he would have to do would be extend his arm, grab her and crush her:

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If Captain America can't avoid it, Crystal definitely can't!



Notice how old that scan was. Crystal has improved greatly (like making and creating an energy flare in space) PIS could be called as she should have been able to just directly control the fire. Magnetically pushing him back backed by 7 gravity wielders is gonna make Charcoal really ineffective



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that's underwater.....as such it has no bearing on this fight whatsoever


she can create water. As such if I so choose water would be all over you in the same was as the scan.




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Energy absorption?.... ever been used against a weapon created by Odin? .... i don't see it working against Asgardian magic


you mean like Thors and BRBs hammers arnt enough of asgardian magic?? What the f**k?









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Cap beating Iron Man is PIS... especially since tar "blinded" him


yet he has done it over and over again....I have scans if you want them. wink

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Only because they are under water and she can control that water.... on land they'd all kick her ass


PLEASE....the sheer versitility to her powers kick ALL their asses.


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Originally posted by Scoobless
An unarmed human cracking armour that's taken hits from Count Nefaria?..... i couldn't come up with a bigger example of PIS if i tried


Its not the first time it has happened with a human street level taking him on and winning. Temegun, Captain America, Ghost. That therefore is not pis, but an element used a lot in the writing of Ironman comics. If characters with speed give him trouble my Powerhouses WILL give him trouble, and Zero G punches WILL hurt him


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Originally posted by Scoobless
The best things about this fight setting are that Crystal has a very limited environment to work with and DB Prime has absolutely nowhere to hide


the air is a great weapon into itself. The effects of gravity and magnetism are also an immense help. I really dont think Crystal is all that limited.

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DB prime has no powers in this fight, and yet if he is taken out you lose over half your team's strength.... with no safe areas or hidden corners in the room he's going to be in plain sight through the whole match. All it will take is a single hit from any member of my team to KO him


Im sorry, I forgot that in prep I made him use his legion flight ring. Let me explain. Duplicate Boy is honorary member of the legion thanks to his status as a hero of lallor. In actuallity in one part in continuity he was actually a part of the actual legion. Either way, he still has a legion ring, as in the future they give those out like another pair of boots. The legion ring coupled with Alex's suit gives him a distinct speed advantage to dodge almost anything you throw.

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So my team advance to close the gap between us... not too fast at first and with shields up


seeing as how all my characters are still up and fighting, you can try. Powerhouse is throwing you with gravity fields and my wendigos like darts at you, Crystal is using magnetism and gravity to help out, my dupes are creating shields to cover themselves, Powerhouse is taking to shooting powerbombs (which are in fact extremely powerful) at her upmost level she was able to take thor and BRBs attack and throw it back on someone else (then preceeded to pass out). Seeing as there is noone in this tourny who can give her that much power she breaks no caps, but her powerbombs are no laughing matter.

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Once we're reasonably close IM blasts all around your guys to startle/distract them while TS hurls his mace at whomever he chooses... let's say it's Power-House.... instant KO


Crystal can effect things from a thirty mile raduis, and has shown to be able to effect the area with a shield of Invisible women who has far better sheilding then ironman. Ironman goes down thanks to lowering his temp, slowing his heart rate, and frying him from the inside out.

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When he drops my guys continue with the blasting to further scatter your team and take out a few dupes at the same time


Powerhouse is not going down, sorry. Gravity has made all your characters much slower, and therefore their reaction speeds are much slower compared to me. I can throw my wendigos at your team like darts or push you back myself.
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Once two or three more are down, Charcoal and Thunderstrike rush in blasting all the time.... when all attention is turned to them Hermod moves around to flank... he moves so fast that he is effectively invisible... he gets in amongst your team and starts smacking people at mach speeds.... and even connects with DB Prime.... since he has no powers his head comes right off.... and the 5 duplicates disappear


Crystal can manipulate the energy, Powerhouse can absorb it. Gravity plays havok on your team, so no Hermod does not flank anyone whos faster than my grandma. DB Prime has the ring, and the survival suit.

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Now they all sit back and laugh as they watch the last of the Wendigos kill each other until there's only 1 left.... then Thunderstrike caves its head in with his mace


well.....my whole team is still effective, my wendigos have had one of the best healing factors in the whole tourny....so I really think you might want to re-evaluate that....


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
It proves that she can manipulate you from the inside out. Yes it does prove something. It means I can manipulate your temp, make your heart rate go down, and/or fry your ass in your own suit. Simple as that.


Nope, wrong!..... all it proves is that she can alter the temp of an unarmoured human.... The suit was ripped open and not protecting anything

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Notice how old that scan was. Crystal has improved greatly (like making and creating an energy flare in space) PIS could be called as she should have been able to just directly control the fire. Magnetically pushing him back backed by 7 gravity wielders is gonna make Charcoal really ineffective


You're the one who posted the scan to prove her ability

She won't be magnetically pushing anything made from organic carbon... and if all your gravity boys focus on Charcoal they will get murdered by the rest of my team (or i'll simply kill DB Prime)

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
she can create water. As such if I so choose water would be all over you in the same was as the scan.


Bullsh!t... she can just summon millions of gallons of water out of nothing? i'd like to see you prove that, because unless she can completely fill the miles high, mile wide, room that scan has no place here..... and if she did do that then the only person who wouldn't drown would be Iron Man.... so i win by default ... stick out tongue

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
you mean like Thors and BRBs hammers arnt enough of asgardian magic?


Show them/her/him (whoever) absorbing blasts from Thor then.... haven't seen anything so far

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
yet he has done it over and over again....I have scans if you want them.


Doesn't matter... tar "blinding" him is still PIS

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Originally posted by Blair Wind
PLEASE....the sheer versitility to her powers kick ALL their asses.


LMAO.... laughing

You think Crystal can handle Namor, Thunderstrike, Hercules, Vision and others at the same time?

That is just laughable

laughing out loud


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Originally posted by Blair Wind
Its not the first time it has happened with a human street level taking him on and winning. Temegun, Captain America, Ghost.


Cap's shield damaged his repulsors... but then Cap's shield can cut through almost anything

Ghost is invisible and intangible.... he pulls the same trick the Vision uses all the time - Intangible hand solidifying in the chest.... and even that doesn't work these days

Temugin, on the other hand, winning with no weapons whatsoever was pure PIS

yes


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