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Magnetism is no help to you here whatsoever, the air isn't much use either
He's still the weakest link... any single hit will still take him out.... and a sonic attack will cause him to smack into the walls/floor KOing himself
Powerhouse can't take a hit from Thunderstrike (the mace) ... so he wont be problem as he'll likely be the first person KOd
Crystal's magnetism is useless here as it wont affect any of my team
She can filter air, with immense concentration, from a distance..... show her lowering body temp from a mile away.... both the scans you showed of her attempting that trick were from less than one foot away.... and none of the people affected were shielded
Invisible Woman's shields are stronger than IM's... but IM has designed his for use against psionic attacks (and other types as well.... obviously)
PS... lowering body temp AND frying him?....
she can't do it.... especially when she's under heavy fire .... if you look at those scans again, not only is she around a foot away at the most, but it takes her a while and she has nothing else to distract her.... it's not a viable strategy mid-battle:
Ripped open armour... less than a foot away, no distractions:
All my characters have super strength ... gravity increase wont affect them much.... and PH is still getting taken out by TS's mace
Class 30 super strength and high mach speeds.... if your lucky he'll slow down to mach 2 with the extra gravity.... Hermod is still the fastest here and can avoid anything you've got
Powerhouse is dead/knocked out from the mace (which gravity fields wont effect)
Crystal can't manipulate energy that's only there for a fraction of a second (such as a repulsor blast) she's not that fast
nah... DB Prime is still taken out easily, your teams strength is halved instantly, TS takes out PH in one hit, the Wendigos are too easy to avoid for three fliers and a super speedster... Crystal can't handle my team on her own.... she gets crushed... literally
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Last edited by Scoobless on Mar 29th, 2006 at 01:46 PM
I'll be voting Sunday, since I'm guessing this will be up longer than a week. I think I'm a judge, even though I thought I'd sit this fight out originally. But still, Dizzle asked and I said I was in if he needed me...and I'm more than willing to help out.
doesnt matter. Her powers have worked on Invisible Womens sheilds, that have been said to block all types of powers. IM is smart but is no where near her type of sheilding.
to show that she can create ice. However the instance should have been just her taking control of his flame.
dude I have seven characters using altering gravity. Do you really think I would just be focusing on one character? It would be a widespread effect.
I never said she could make millions. I did say she can create water. Check her bio....in fact here is what it says
She can join hydrogen and oxygen molecules to create rain, summoning these molecules from the atmosphere. She can control the movement of water by manipulating surface tension, divining water from the ground and causing it to flow in designated directions. The observed maximum volume of water she can control is approximately 2,000 cubic feet (about 15,000 gallons).
check the her bio. It states it pretty clear.
But cap beating him isnt. Hes done it many a times. If he can do it, if temugin can do it, if ghost can do it, if a freakin ninja can do it, then its no longer pis. And if they can do it by being simply "faster" then my powerhouses can do it too
Gravity is of use to me tho, and air is a very potent weapon. Creating hurrican force winds, airless vacuums, firetornados, watertornados. Theres also the fact that the walls are covered in adamantuim and not the uru that is unbreakable (those are only the trophies)
Crystal has winds and gravity going in your direction, and shields up. My powerhouses can fly and react at mach speeds. Your thunderstrikes initial throw will be weakened by the increased gravity to the potency of the arm throw will be severely weakened.
with immense concentration? Dude she was up there chillin. No concentration nessacary. Her powers have worked against Invisible Womans who is not only stronger in the shield field, but more versitile as to what she can block. Her powers have been said to block almost anything, yet Crystal got through. I really think your overestimating IMs shields. Yes Crystal can do more than one thing at once.
mach 2? my powerhouses cruise around mach speeds. Gravity fields WILL effect you (especially with SEVEN different characters attacking you with it)
anyother use of my gravity would not be to slow the other team members down (which they already are), but to affect the fluid in their inner ear. Anyone who has had a bad case of vertigo knows how debilitating that is. Quite literally they wouldnt be able to tell up from down Thunderstrike would not be able to throw effectively (and the gravity has already made him weaker than normal), hermond would not be able to run straight, or fast at all.
nope DB Prime is chillin with the legion ring, which combined with the flight suit of Powerhouses, lets him go around mach 10. TS is too weak and disoriented to do much of anything, hermond as well. The Wendigos have torn through your characters, Ironman has been fried from the inside out. My team wins
question: how exactly do charcoals powers work? The fire aspect of them?
in the pic you showed he seemed scared of the electricity lookin girl. Notice that Captain America said it was nothing more than an exercise to him, he wasnt worried in the least.
you can vote, but I'm pretty sure Dizzle already has judges for this fight. You'll just be part of the popular vote (counting for 1/5 of the final vote if the judges are split).
the scans you showed suggest that the gravity fields created are very small... none of them could cover a wide area.... even if they all worked together
You said:
the scan in question was from under the ocean.... to recreate the environment in question she would have to make millions of gallons... which she can't
post it again
Temugin was Pure PIS and Ghost has abilities that none of your team has
The Ninja thing... ... that was even bigger PIS than the Temugin thing.... everyone knows that!
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Which wont stop IM and TS's blasts
If she didn't need to concentrate then she would've done it all while watching TV (or whatever Inhumans do for relaxation) instead she had ot get up on the roof to avoid all distractions and spend quite a while trying to imitate a basic air filter
PH's gravity fields are too small to target a fast moving target.... and Mach 2 is just a rough estimation of the slowest you could possibly make him.... teh fact is that his speed and strength combined make any of his punches OHKOs for any of your low durability team members (which is most of them)
Iron Man can do the same to your team (with sonics) without having to be precise at all... and he can keep the attack up indefinitely while moving on to other attack plans
MACH 10 in a room that's only 1 mile across will kill him faster than anything i could do
looks like you just took out half your own team
He generates heat internally which results in external flame allowing flight and heat/fire energy blasts
The girl is Jolt.... she was Charcoal's best friend and he felt a little guilty over her "death" (long story)... so he generally listened to what she said
Cap always takes his training exercises seriously... especially that one with the "Redeemers" - All reformed bad guys who he didn't like very much
Powerhouses gravity fields have gone up in power into long range field attacks (a little like magnetos shields when drawn) Crystal can effect large areas, with her powers. She was just using it creativily at that point
She can join hydrogen and oxygen molecules to create rain, summoning these molecules from the atmosphere. She can control the movement of water by manipulating surface tension, divining water from the ground and causing it to flow in designated directions. The observed maximum volume of water she can control is approximately 2,000 cubic feet (about 15,000 gallons).
seems she can do a damn lot though
It happened. Temugin is faster than Ironman, pure and simple. Powerhouse is too.
magnetism........adamantuim is metel....see the connection?
Ive already shown that Crystal can control the energy of any of your characters, and Powerhouse can absorb them and throw it back you
spend time? it happened in one panel. I really dont think she needed time to do that at all. So when one is trying to relax and at the same time do something productive they should just sit around doing nothing? thats like saying Storm should just sit while letting her powers do the gardening for her.
one, not small. Two, I dont need to target it anyone. Its a widespread field. Once within it your in my domain. My gravity rules the day. I can throw you back into your teammates, or just drop you to the floor, depending on where Im forcing the gravity.
sonics depend on air movement. The wind going in YOUR direction would not help YOUR team at all. It would mean that the sonics are going to affect you and not me.
please. I said he could go that speed, not that he would. He would however be able to dodge anything you throw at him
..... hes made of carbon.....carbon burns doesnt it?
That is what actually happened at Chernobyl in the Ukraine. The nuclear reactor got so hot that it set the graphite (carbon) crucible on fire
Moving on....gravity has made all your characters slow down considerable. I can form an airless vacuum around you with my Crystals (making Charcoal ineffective), make the oxygen in Ironmans suit explode (frying your millionaire playboy into a crisp), making Thunderstrike subject to vertigo then hitting him with mach speed Zero G punches and power bombs. Meanwhile Hermond is being hit by the thrown wendigos by some of my Powerhouses.
And Iron Man has beaten Count Nefaria (who is a Superman type character)
the walls are solid.... to move one wall means moving the entire building.... which I'm pretty sure isn't going to help you
She can't control energy blasts she doesn't know are coming and are only in the air for a fraction of a second
Seems pretty small in the few scans you've shown
Not when you're eating missiles and magical energy blasts you can't
Wind only has a minor effect on sound... if it was too extreme for them he would wait for a better opening
And wind and gravity will do nothing to slow down/deter Thunderstrike's mace or Iron Man's repulsors
No he wouldn't. He has bog standard human reflexes, if he's flying at any considerable speed he'll have to totally focus on not crashing, if he's going at a manageable speed then he's an easy target
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At MACH 1 he would cover one mile in just over four and a half seconds... at this speed Iron Man's radar/laser targeting will knock him out of the sky no problem
At MACH 2 he'll cross the entire room in just over two seconds
Totally unmanageable speeds for a human
At MACH 10 he'll turn himself into paste before he even realises he's in trouble
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there's no way in hell a person with human reflexes can maneuver within a closed environment this size at those speeds without killing themselves
It just isn't possible!
Duplicate Boy Prime is dead meat in this match... whether he does it himself or one of my team does it, it doesn't matter.... he wont last thirty seconds
and when he dies - half your team vanishes
Yes, Carbon does burn (in some forms)
In fact Charcoal's descriptive title (or whatever you call those things) was Charcoal: The Burning Man
Charcoal is a form of organic carbon and he can generate more of it at will... hence the body stretching/mass increasing tricks he does:
^ that second scan was him severely weakened after a week of torture
I really doubt that would happen.... not only did Tony spend months shielding himself from any possible energy fields within or out-with the armour but there's extremely little space between him and the armour.... that's a hell of a precision task you're attempting on a moving target while under fire.... it just wont be happening
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The simple fact is, Duplicate Boy Prime cannot survive in this environment
If he flies - he kills himself
If he doesn't fly then he's an even easier target
This one weak defenceless character represents the majority of your team's strength (limited though that may be ) .... and as soon as he's knocked out/killed the duplicates vanish
It's just an undeniable fact.... he's going to be the one responsible for your defeat
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Last edited by Scoobless on Mar 31st, 2006 at 03:00 AM
Seems to me she took control of that blast, and she wasnt expecting it from Exodus
that was the revamp, retelling their past. Its basically a kids story, but it illustrates their powers pretty well (besides the fact that they are depowered) Katie Powers offensive powers are pretty awesome in the old comics....
missles can be deflected, magical energy blasts can be absorbed and returned
your not gonna get an inch when Im doing hurrican force winds...
But it will slow down Thunderstikes arm motion, he has vertigo, and Ironman has bee fried from the inside out
the ring can give him flight at levels he can accomplish and one of my powerhouses is like a body guard. He can, while guarding him throw your characters with gravity, or sniper your ass with powerbombs
I cant see all the pictures. But it doesnt matter. Carbon is made up of earth atoms. It makes things from graphite to diamonds. All are under Crystals control. There really is nothing you can say to that.
precision?
she took all the pollution out of a thirty mile raduis. She took, felt the disturbance (without moving too see it) and expelled it. Here she is shown making cloths. Why am I showing this? because it shows that she can create things out of precise control of her powers. It might not seem like a big deal, but the precision needed to create two sets of clothes is really great.
now to explode oxygen would be a simple task. She can "feel" the oxygen and just make it explode. It would make a nice "BOOM"
also just to say she could raise the temp. around everyone (excluding Charcoal of course, who would be already controlled with my earth powers. And who knows what temperatures she could reach epically with hurricane forces of pressurized air think a giant blast furnace
Now I could take the two (increases temp. and Charcoals earth) mix and make lava It wont be around for long, but I can burn you with the sludge "lava" pretty badly.
notice here that she reduced the thrown object into molten slag. That means she can instantly make something extremely hot.
I would also mention, my powerhouses have a lil weapon that I really had not needed to use before. However Ironman provided the perfect target. I could simply come up to ironman at mach speeds and absorb his inorganic material. Thats one of the two ways Katie Power absorbs energy (two being the bishop way). So I could actually just make his suit become my energy.
just more proof that Charcoal can be controlled by Crystal:
Calcium carbonate is a chemical compound, with chemical formula CaCO3.
It is commonly used as an antacid, and is the active ingredient in agricultural lime. It is a common substance found as rock in all parts of the world and is the main component of seashells and the shell of snails. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calcium_carbonate
I think it's not disputed that Charcoal is made of carbon and that Crystal can control/manipulate "earth". So what does that mean? Well what is "earth" made up of? Rocks and decomposed rocks (ie. sand) mainly. Now since Ive shown that many of these rocks contain carbon and that other metamorphic rocks (ie diamonds) are made entirely of carbon therefore Crystal's control over "earth" should extend to include Charcoal's carbon body.
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Mar 29th, 2006 01:43 PM
Thunderstrike would not be able to throw effectively (and the gravity has already made him weaker than normal), hermond would not be able to run straight, or fast at all.
DB Prime is chillin with the legion ring, which combined with the flight suit of Powerhouses, lets him go around mach 10. TS is too weak and disoriented to do much of anything, hermond as well. The Wendigos have torn through your characters, Ironman has been fried from the inside out. My team wins 
hes made of carbon.....carbon burns doesnt it?
