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No, he had her drawing upon the energy of the galactic core, nowhere does it say she was manipulating the entirety of its energies.


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Stop.

You’re arguing something that really doesn’t have too. Everything you just said is pointless. You can't say someone is not an Omega mutant because we really don't know what makes a mutant an Omega.

Marvel says she a potential Omega, so she a potential Omega.
We know exactly what makes someone an omega. on-panel statement of someone being an omega.

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She did not harvest the entirety of the galactic core's energies. She would have extinguished it, if she did. She drained energy from all the core, not the entirety of its energies. This is a high herald feat maybe a trans level one and it's an isolated aberration in her career.

Like I said in my original post, it's an impressive feat of reach or scope, meaning the area and the distances she managed to balnket with her power. But the actual amount of energy pulled from it? Caption says a new star shined for a brief moment and then perished or some such nonsense. SS could replciate that feat as he has created a black hole.

Storm's average is far below magnet for instance and neither one comes close to most powerfull mutants such as hyperstorm, wanda, jaspers, richards, the phoenix, megan, mr m, etc.

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She did not harvest the entirety of the galactic core's energies. She would have extinguished it, if she did. She drained energy from all the core, not the entirety of its energies. This is a high herald feat maybe a trans level one and it's an isolated aberration in her career.

Like I said in my original post, it's an impressive feat of reach or scope, meaning the area and the distances she managed to balnket with her power. But the actual amount of energy pulled from it? Caption says a new star shined for a brief moment and then perished or some such nonsense. SS could replciate that feat as he has created a black hole.

Storm's average is far below magnet for instance and neither one comes close to most powerfull mutants such as hyperstorm, wanda, jaspers, richards, the phoenix, megan, mr m, etc.




A galactic core is greater in size than a black hole. I don't wanna explain further because the image says everything. About the "a new star was born" is not just an ordinary star cos it was stated that Storm summoned the energy of the entire galactic core.

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We know exactly what makes someone an omega. on-panel statement of someone being an omega.


I would like to see those scans please. I mean other then saying unlimited potentail, which can mean a lot of things

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She did not harvest the entirety of the galactic core's energies. She would have extinguished it, if she did. She drained energy from all the core, not the entirety of its energies. This is a high herald feat maybe a trans level one and it's an isolated aberration in her career.


OK, I give you the scan and you see something different then what's actually on the page....alright.

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A galactic core is greater in size than a black hole. I don't wanna explain further because the image says everything. About the "a new star was born" is not just an ordinary star cos it was stated that Storm summoned the energy of the entire galactic core.
what part of "if she had absorbed the whole galactic core, it would be gone" don't you understand? she blanketed the whole core with her power and harvested a portion of it, that's it. The actual power she drained was enough to make "a star shine for brief a moment" and then she died. SS created a permanent black hole with his energy output which is more impressive than the amount of energy she drained to shine brightly for a fraction of a second and die. all that to kill a brood egg too. that feat isn't beyond a high herald and its her highest point to date.

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I would like to see those scans please. I mean other then saying unlimited potentail, which can mean a lot of things



OK, I give you the scan and you see something different then what's actually on the page....alright.

Well been nice talking to you. big grin




Really? You want scans that show that the only way to confirm who is an omega is to have the writer say it? x-men forever coined the term and defined omega as sinonymous with unlimited development potential and, clearly, the only way one can objectively know who is an omega is to have the stroyline state it, as it refers to potential and not actually realized power level. the only confirmed omegas so far are jean grey, iceman, mr m, franklin richards, elixir, nate grey and cable. other very strong candidates include SW, hyperstorm, megan and mjj. storm cant be considered an omega until it's made clear that she has no upper growth limit. Hell, magneto has a much better case for being omega than she does and no one can claim for sure that he is either, until it's stated without ambiguity.

Yeah, I'm the one seeing reality through pink colored glasses. Your interpretation of the scan is as deluded as only a storm fanboy can come up with. She isn't even a low herald on average and to claim she drained all of the energy of the galactic core when it continues to exist and didn't even blink for a moment is plain stupidity. Also, she died to do that. Been nice talking to you too

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what part of "if she had absorbed the whole galactic core, it would be gone" don't you understand? she blanketed the whole core with her power and harvested a portion of it, that's it. The actual power she drained was enough to make "a star shine for brief a moment" and then she died. SS created a permanent black hole with his energy output which is more impressive than the amount of energy she drained to shine brightly for a fraction of a second and die. all that to kill a brood egg too. that feat isn't beyond a high herald and its her highest point to date.


Storm has absorbed only the energies, and who said that the galactic core was still there? Again , the star that shone for a brief moment isn't just a regular star. I've thought about that too, just to kill the brood within her. But she has not yet discovered her full potential, which i would assume Storm might have though she needed all those energies to do what she has to do. And when she discovered it, she told Binary how to kill those broods inside the other x-men members without summoning the energy of the entire galactic core, that is if Binary could actually do it.

Storm has beaten The Trion, a nigh omnipotent entity which was placed higher than a full-powered Galactus in comicvine website. Though it wasn't an official list, but i believe they've done enough research why The Trion is ranked higher than a full-powered Galactus

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The galactic core is still there, though.


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Storm has absorbed only the energies, and who said that the galactic core was still there? Again , the star that shone for a brief moment isn't just a regular star. I've thought about that too, just to kill the brood within her. But she has not yet discovered her full potential, which i would assume Storm might have though she needed all those energies to do what she has to do. And when she discovered it, she told Binary how to kill those broods inside the other x-men members without summoning the energy of the entire galactic core, that is if Binary could actually do it.

Storm has beaten The Trion, a nigh omnipotent entity which was placed higher than a full-powered Galactus in comicvine website. Though it wasn't an official list, but i believe they've done enough research why The Trion is ranked higher than a full-powered Galactus


So basically this is more of you stating Storm is greater then Galactus and any hero who is weaker or equal to him.


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Storm has absorbed only the energies, and who said that the galactic core was still there? Again , the star that shone for a brief moment isn't just a regular star. I've thought about that too, just to kill the brood within her. But she has not yet discovered her full potential, which i would assume Storm might have though she needed all those energies to do what she has to do. And when she discovered it, she told Binary how to kill those broods inside the other x-men members without summoning the energy of the entire galactic core, that is if Binary could actually do it.

Storm has beaten The Trion, a nigh omnipotent entity which was placed higher than a full-powered Galactus in comicvine website. Though it wasn't an official list, but i believe they've done enough research why The Trion is ranked higher than a full-powered Galactus
Well, the core still there and seen as it made up of billions of stars, if she had drained all its energies, it would be gone.

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Really? You want scans that show that the only way to confirm who is an omega is to have the writer say it? x-men forever coined the term and defined omega as sinonymous with unlimited development potential and, clearly, the only way one can objectively know who is an omega is to have the stroyline state it, as it refers to potential and not actually realized power level. the only confirmed omegas so far are jean grey, iceman, mr m, franklin richards, elixir, nate grey and cable. other very strong candidates include SW, hyperstorm, megan and mjj. storm cant be considered an omega until it's made clear that she has no upper growth limit. Hell, magneto has a much better case for being omega than she does and no one can claim for sure that he is either, until it's stated without ambiguity.

Yeah, I'm the one seeing reality through pink colored glasses. Your interpretation of the scan is as deluded as only a storm fanboy can come up with. She isn't even a low herald on average and to claim she drained all of the energy of the galactic core when it continues to exist and didn't even blink for a moment is plain stupidity. Also, she died to do that. Been nice talking to you too


Sorry dude, not gonna be a part of your circle jerk.

If you want to believe something other then what’s on the page, that fine with me. wink

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The galactic core is still there, though.


I just assumed the energy returned to original location. Like turning on and off a lightswitch. Or that pink star thing is all the energy still standing there....I really don't know.


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Knock yourself out, believe whatever delusion best fits the undeniable fact that she didn't consume the galactic core and that other high heralds have better feats than that.

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she's not high herald, though... is she?


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according to some peeps in this thread shes an abstract


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she's not high herald, though... is she?


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according to some peeps in this thread shes an abstract


I personally don't think she at high herald or abstract level...and I hope no writer puts her at that level.

On the other hand, she did something amazingly powerful and I really don't see a reason to underplay this feat.


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she's not high herald, though... is she?
No. She's low at best. I meant her highest end feat wasn't really beyond high herald.

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No. She's low at best. I meant her highest end feat wasn't really beyond high herald.


yeah, i know lol...


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No. She's low at best. I meant her highest end feat wasn't really beyond high herald.


Shhhhhhhh, don't say that. RLAAMJR will hear you and tell us how she defeated the Trion and drained the galactic core....again. confused

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Please. I used to have to deal with people saying she'd beat Green Lantern and that her precognition would help her deal with Superman's speed.


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