I think Werdum reaching to a position where most agree that he is top 5 UFC HW is to some extent earning it.
But after having won just once since losing spectacularly in case of Cain? Granted Cain won in spectacular fashion but Werdum's certainly done more to earn it than Cain and hasn't recently been beaten by the guy.
It's not for variety's sake, it's for the sake of keeping the champion active and producing fights for the fans at championship level. Ultimately there has to be some degree of variety, nobody wants to see a fighter fight someone much more than a few times really if ever. Mix it up with the top guys/rematches against them, as well as people who are on big streak/wins. Fabricio is good choice in this scenario.
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Which is why I said Cain/Werdum for a title eliminator.
Producing a variety of contenders for the champ is great... if they've earned it. At this point, Werdum hasn't beaten anybody in the UFC's top tier yet. As far as his prolific career and longevity are concerned? Basically, as far as his name power, yeah, Werdum is right up there. But, in a vacuum, having wins over two mid-tier guys doesn't mean you should get a title shot.
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But why should JDS have to wait for that? This kind of attitude simply means that we'll see the top level fighters fight less than they should, and could lead to ring rust. Less fights, less activity for champion and top level fighetrs. And I personally think it is mroe a matter of Champion being constantly tested, then a matter of someone having earned the shot. Ultimately the glory lies at being the champion,, not at getting to face himn. So if you beat him, great, you deserve to be champion. If you don't you have failed. But who gets that shot, should be based on the best/most deserving of people who are available to fight the champion as soon as the champ is ready. And yes, some variety will be needed to prevent constant rematches which nobody wants to see. So sometimes people you may feel haven't truly proven themselves will have to be called in in place of top guys who have recently lost to the champ. The champ should really have to fight two people before rematching a guy he beat, unless it was a super close fight.
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It's not just at the champ's convenience. There are #1 contenders in this sport for a reason. Unless your name is Randy Couture, or you're filling in for somebody who's injured, title shots aren't something that are gifted. Dos Santos isn't just going to fight whatever chump they throw in front of him because he needs to fill some arbitrary quota. I'm not saying Werdum is a chump by any means, but your logic is a slippery slope. The champ is at the top of the mountain, and the onus is on the guy challenging him to climb up the ladder to fight him.
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Everyone has to climb up the ladder to get anywhere anyway. All climbing up the ladder, and you have the peopl that have climbed the furthest. Give the person who is ready and has climbed the furthest the chance, assuming no recent and kind of one sided losses to the champ already. Simple. I'm not saying we throw someone who isn't at least top 15 up against the champ, and coming off at least a win (would need a win streak at lower end of that I'm thinking).
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There are several HW who can match Silva's technicality(which isn't that high anyway), so I still say the match is significant. If we're being honest, Werdum still had the reach advantage too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cZ_2cGK8Kc
I don't think Werdum is better than Maia. Maia has outgrappled people outside his weight class, like Gonzaga. Even still, I think Maia's old ranking was due to MW being a little less deep back then. He's rarely ranked top 10 now, and Werdum wouldn't be either. Frank Mir is a HW, and that was the division I said isn't as talented as the others. I also think Mir could beat Werdum.
I'm not denying his lack of wrestling. I'm saying it doesn't matter because he is winning. If Chael beats him with wrestling, then I'll admit you're on to something. Until then, he's a candidate for GOAT.
Nope. 30.
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You''re either going to be very right and look well knowledge in the area or you're going to look like a complete *******, if Silva beats his ass into the ground, as Silva's claiming. Even if it's just to sell tickets.
GSP is back at 100% and he's already training. Hope he gets back and continue his incredible strike of victories in aguarbly the weight class with the deepest talent pool.
So that someday with see George "Rush" St-Pierre vs Rory "Ares" McDonald.
As for Chael Sonnen vs Anderson Silva: Last time they fought, Sonnen was on the "Juice", like big time. If he's clean this time, Silva will destroy him.
I think they already said that they'd never fight eachother.
And Sonnen was fine last time his testosterone levels were normal what was off was his testosterone to estrogen ratio which the commision falsely penalised him for. Chael has medical condition where has has low levels of natural testosteropne so he uses testosterone replacement therapy to get it to normal levels. That's it.
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Chael: "I thought if you tapped, it ended the round. I did not know that the contest as a whole would come to a conclusion."
Chael has grown on me. I believe that Anderson will destroy him this time around, but I like the humor Chael brings to this sport. Once you realize he's just joking, it's kinda hard to hate him.
On a side note, it's unfortunate that Darth Ray got banned. He did generate some discussion, if nothing else.
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Somebody missed me. I remember. We were debating about Guida & Fail. Numbers don't lie tho. How many times has he been in FOTN? How many times has Fail? Guida went for a decision & I'm glad he lost as I've said elsewhere. Let's not be fools tho. Guida is known for being exciting & is popular because of it. This is one fight folks. How ya'll been?
Agreed, but IMO, he did it on purpose, he doesn't want to be using that account when Silva wrecks Sonnen for a second time and comes off looking like a complete *******.
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