guess not. anyone want to talk about bullseye, and not what color Ares's hair should be?
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-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
Bullseye (dressed as Hawkeye) takes down a group of 8 mercs (dressed as Bullseye) by...
jamming a gun with a shard of glass, causing it to backfire,
then breaks his neck with his elbow without looking to close the deal
walk up and one top of them, dodging point blank gunfire, and breaking ones nose in
the process with his boot... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...awkeye04004.jpg
...taking the one's gun who was firing at him, while still standing on the throats of
two others, and killing six, by hitting the center of the bullseye on each of their heads,
all at once, while in a mid-air backflip, before landing on his feet on the ground... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...awkeye04005.jpg
While captured, his enemies keep him down with a device that inhibits down his motor
functions, and attempt to remove his brain. Bullseye points out that the scalpal
wont work, as his skull is laced with adamantium...and that the same thing was scrambling
the device meant to keep him the whole time, he was just bluffing to get close to his targets
and get information on who they were. play time is over. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...awkeye04023.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...awkeye04024.jpg
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
Distinguishing Features: Large bullseye scar on forehead.
Powers & Abilities:
Superhuman Powers: Bullseye has had strips of
adamantium fused to portions of his skeleton, including his
spine. This is the hardest metal known to science. It can be
cut with a special subatomic particle beam, otherwise, to all
intents and purposes,it is virtually indestructable. Hence,
Bullseye's adamantium-laced bones are virtually
unbreakable.The presence of adamantium does not
interfere with his bones normal functions.
For a brief time, Bullseye could physically sense the
presence of Daredevil within a certain unknown range.
Abilities: Bullseye is an Olympic-level athlete, weight lifter,
and fighter. his inate abilitie to throw any projectile with great
unerring acuracy and deadliness borders on the uncanny.
Bullseye knows every pressure point and vulnerable spot on
the human body and is able to turn virtually any object into a
deadly weapon capable of incapacitating or killing an enemy.
His accuracy when weilding an object the size and mass of a
baseball is about one hundred feet. He can hurl such objects
at around 105 miles per hour.
Weapons: Bullseye has carried guns, knives, whips,
shurikens, darts, and sais. He has also carried plastic
explosive charges in the compartments of his gloves. The list
of common weapons (mistypebjects) he has tunred into weapons includes
pencils, golf balls, paper airplanes, paper clips, and even
playing cards.
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* note: Bullseye, as Dark Hawkeye, currently carries all of Hawkeyes weapons
and armor, bow, trick arrows, ect. see Hawkeye for more details.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
A lot of the Marvel bio stuff contradicts the actual comics regarding Bullseye's bones.
Based on injuries he's received, all of Bullseye's bones have been bonded with adamantium (a la wolverine) other than several of his ribs, at least one of his shins and a few of the bones in his wrists and hands. Evidence: He breaks several bones in The Murdock Papers. Parts of his legs and face are said to be reinforced in Predator's Smile. His feet are said to be plated in Streets of Poison. His fists are said to be reinforced in Guardian Devil. All of his vertabrae have been replaced with adamantium prosthetics but the tendons, ligaments, and cartilage are still natural. After American Eagle snapped his neck, his spinal chord was severed and it and the speech center of his brain were replaced with bionic prosthetics by Norman Osbourne. I also think that Bullseye's strength, agility and healing have been slightly augmented based on how quickly he has recovered from severe injuries in the past, how quickly he recovered from adamantium bonding, and Statements made by Darwind in DD 197-199. This can also be evidenced by his ability to outmaneuver opponents with superhuman or enhanced agility such as Gambit without the ascetic training that Iron Fist, Daredevil, and ELektra have.
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um, cool, and ive read that before, but it doesnt contradict the handbook statement, being the bio was released in 2004, meaning that it officially retcons anything prior, and it directly states...
"Bullseye has had strips of
adamantium fused to portions of his skeleton, including his
spine. "
alls it says is " portions" of his " skeleton " including his spine,
and " fused in strips "
otherwise no more in particular is pointed out.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
correct. i posted the scans that show that myself.
what is the argument and part of the handbook being confused here?
the Handbook states "some" and in"strips". not all. im not sure why its a hard statement to follow, or is contradicted by information that actually supports the statement rather than disagrees with it.
adamantium skull and other parts= portions
we are saying the same thing. so?
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
-i posted the scans and info from his latest Handbook entry...
-Darth quoted this, stating that the rest of the info in Bullseyes history contradicted the Handbook entry, because in his history, he was not shown to have fully encased bones nor all of them encased, like Wolverine does...
- therein was his confusion, as the Handbook entry neither stated such a thing, in fact it supported the history he brought up in that it stated portions generally, and strips, not encased. i was responding to his statement with this.
- you responded, saying what i had just said in shorter terms.
it appeared to me you were saying it as if id said the opposite, as Darth had just done. im not sure how it couldnt have been more generally stated nor open for confusion. all three of us are actually saying and claiming the exact same thing here, as did the Handbook.
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the full extent isnt very documented. it is known that his skull (which does not necessarily then mean his jaw/mandible) is encased, and was just confirmed in his mini. his spine has strips bonded to the vertebrae, but seemingly not between, and this seems the case with other parts of his skeleton as well.
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back to Darth, i wonder of his physical enhancements as well?
possible nanotech? also, i know that one of the reasons Wolverine has increased strength and therefore agility, is because of the counter effect on his muscles in dealing overtime with moving the weight of the metal in his body. possibly this effect has taken place with Bullseye as well
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the only thing that bugs me, and i try and remind myself, its a comic, so really nothing ever adds up 100%, is why he doesnt have adamantuim poisoning, which happened to Wolverine immediately when he had his healing factor removed by High Evolutionary.
lol. right, the answer is because its a comic. as much like
getting a solid answer on that as getting one on the definitive way Daredevils works.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
What i was stating was that it's not reinforced with "strips", it's molecularly bonded as in Adamantium-B, Wolverine style. The only bones that aren't are his ribs and shins. He's still susceptible to closed head injuries because he doesn't have enhanced physiology which would also explain why he's had his neck snapped as well.
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
it doesnt say its not bonded. where are you getting any of this?
"Bullseye has had strips of
adamantium fused to portions of his skeleton, including his
spine. "
fused= bonded molecularly
it doesnt rebuke him having bones broken whatsoever in anycase.
im not sure where your reading this as its not in there, unless this stems from an argument with what someone else says or a Vs thread. why would him having strips melted down to encase his bones or being sprewed and molded make nay differance as to why his bones could be broken at the seams or not. how does it claim its against in that statement? it doesnt. christ man, its one short sentance, it cant be that hard. how can you be pulling an essay out of fifteen words, especially new words and terms that arent even defined by the sentance? im saying to you its in your head, as im staring right at what your saying the the bio is saying and what the actual words that are printed are you know?
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
Here's the process that Darkwind invented that was used on Wolverine, Bullseye and everyone else with metal bones- Super heated adamantium is not melted onto the bones, encasing them, it's molecularly bonded to the osteum, creating a new substance called Adamantium Beta which doesn't interfere with biological functions but still makes the bones unbreakable. What was in a lot of sources including the marvel encyclopedias was the "Strips" quote which makes me think of just strips of metal attached to or melted onto bone. Again, if Darkwind invented the process in the first place and had the power to heal severe injuries such as a severed spine, why would he do a half assed job on Bulls? Granted bonding ribs and shins would be risky on a non-mutant, but still.
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
Well, regardless, it would still have to be molecularly bonded and not plated to not interfer with biological processess. Oh, and Antarctic Vibranium can instantly melt adamantium.
__________________ Land of the free, home of the brave...
Do you think we will ever be saved?
In this land of dreams find myself sober...
Wonder when will it'll all be over...
Living in a void when the void grows colder...
Wonder when it'll all be over?
Will you be laughing when it's over?
Last edited by Darth Jello on Sep 15th, 2009 at 05:04 AM
This whole anti-metal thing contradicts the statement that adamantium in its liquefied form still can't have its form altered, though. But yeah, that looks like a possibility in Lester's case.
all of thats true Darth, but theres something your not getting. it doesnt state any of the things your saying. it doesnt give specifics to the process, the exact bones nor how they are coated, nor even the grade of metal used. for instance "plated". where does it say that? it doesnt. your other issues are that he had bones snapped apart. repeat: apart. you answered it earlier yourself. the parts between his bones and cartilage are obviously not protected. also many of the examples brought to play here make me wonder, because his last Handbook entry, as it states and i typed out in big numbers, was in 2004, and things like what came to light in Thunderbolts were not only afterwords, but didnt go against the Handbooks statement, on the basis it was vague and not very detailed, leaving it open to whatever. lastly, why is this an issue of great importance?
the only reason i can possibly think again is Vs/Battle threads in an argument of whether his bones can be snapped. well weve seen them snapped so they can, and the Handbook doesnt say they cant, in fact also points out the metal doesnt restrict the bones functions (ie: movement) which i think can be taken as pretty suggestive)
BTW: and no offense, but i have new stuff ready to post for Lester. Im a little hesitant about it however because im not sure i need the
to watch a page of this thread go over the definition of an acronym and its intended meaning. theres a letter page at marvel for that, and a site run by a guy that works specifically on those Handbooks foremost to ask these questions to, though im telling you know he will tell you the same thing. thats all cool speculation, but none of it is even stated there anyways. sometimes the greatest minds tend to overshoot simplicity.
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
BTW:
answer to youyr last. ez
1. its just a comic book. it doesnt center around logic nor science.
every new writer does theyre own thing as well, again, hence why the Daredevil entry states that the true nature of Matts power cannot even be defined, because there have been so many given and shown reasons for it.
2. Bullseye isnt Wolverine. He wasnt created nor modified by the Weapon X project, Romulus has no stake in his life (oh yeah thats right, Wolverines Origin has been completly reworked and retconned, see what im saying here?). Bullseye himself has been retconned a min of three times now.
3. the information regarding his adamantuim, and why it is the way it is, incling why he couldnt have the same process done as Wolverine, simply were never disclosed. hence, there is no answer.
this shouldt be that difficult to grasp?
__________________ "We are turning into a nation of whimpering slaves to Fear—fear of war, fear of poverty, fear of random terrorism, fear of getting down-sized or fired because of the plunging economy, fear of getting evicted for bad debts or suddenly getting locked up in a military detention camp on vague charges of being a Terrorist sympathizer."
-Hunter S. Thompson
—"Extreme Behavior in Aspen," February 3, 2003
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