Love doesn't sum up my feelings for Sidious and Yoda.
While Obi was hurting during the fight, he was more focused than Anakin whose mind was practically gone with grief, jealousy and rage. Obi-wan himself told Anakin "It's respect for the man you were."
When it coems to it, though, Obi-wan is more than willing to finish Anakin, hurting or no. He clearly grieves after the battle, true
He can atleast put up a good fight ,Sids Fanboy.You just saying '0H!!!1! $1d$ w1!! pwn1 teh 0b3 1!,isn't gonna cut it,buddy.Ob's will put up a good fight,not just be pwned like in your wet dreams of Sids. My Fanboy Friend
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You're basing this on what? Sidious's inferior defeated Obi-wan with little effort and if Palp pulls out the Dark Side, OBi-wan would never be able to stand that
Thats because Ob's thought that Dooku wouldn't notice him if he came from behind his back(ROTS Novel),Ob's let his guard down,he is't going to make the same mistake again,your basing you points on nothing but your opinion.Give me evidence of ROTS Palps 'so-called' Instant WTFpwn power.An don't do the NEC deal,I want real proof of this insta kill power of his.
Just ask Agen Kolar, Kit Fisto, Saesee Tiin, Arden Lyn, Executor Sedriss, Ashkar Borda, among other Jedi masters during the purge, Dark Empire which states Sidious';s knowledge....
Though I think Kit Fisto would be sufficient...
Also...Obi got surprised in battle? So he's somehow absolved?
This isn't DE Sidious,it ROTS Sidious,read the topic title.
Second,he wasn't surprised in battle,it's a duel,reread my post,he thought he could surprise if he snuck up on him and thought that the Count was more focused on Anakin(who he was having trouble with,again,from the ROTS novel and Gl aswell,watch the interviews on the bonus disk).
An third,those guys were surprised,don't give me that bullshit,this is a legit duel,not a surprise attack.
Fourth,Kit utilizes a form not ment for saber to saber combat.He isn't sufficient enough,again.
This is nothing that you've presented to me as proof right here.If you aren't going to provide anything with merit ,then stop wasting my time.
Once more: Obi-wan made an error in a critical battle, he dropped his guard in a critical duel. And Kit certainly had time for the surprise to end. And Kit is a very good fighter, one of the best the order had produced.
Palpatine either utilizes Tera Kasi and a combinaiton of speed to destroy Obi-wan or sits back and destroys him with one of the many Dark Side techniques he has.
Again,proof you are a Fanboy.Why don't you pull Sids dick out of your mouth and think for once.And Kit may be a good fighter in battlle,but in a duel his form is basically useless.You underestimate Obi-Wan just as you overestimate Sids,Obi-Wan beat the best force user in the galaxy(Anakin,as quoted by GL),Palpy might defeat him,but he will not WTFpwn him,fanboy.
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anakin was out of his mind with rage and grief. Sidious's grasp of the force isn't something Obi-wan can defend against, either. a storm of force lightning, a force crush...even if Sidious launches himself at Obi, uses Tera-Kasi.
Kit is quoted in the ROTS novelization as one of the greatest Jedi duelists the order ever produced and Obi's seen him fight.
It wasn't an insult,it was rying to get him to see reason,but I now know he's too stubborn.
Second,has Obi-Wan seen Kit fight in a Lightsaber duel?Kit basically had his ass handed to him by Ventress in The Cestus Deception(and you mentioned battel,not dueling,two different things.),and again,you are underestimating Obi-Wan,Anakin may have be overwelmed with anger and grief,but that doesn't not make him dangerous. And where does it say Sids knows Teras Kasi?Even so,force users have beaten people who have master Teras Kasi(yes,even other force users).
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Claiming Sidious could defeat Obi-wan easily isn't exactly saying Yoda could destroy God.
And Dangerous or no, unbridled fury is not the best idea in a duel. It clouds your judgement and makes you stupid, like it did with Anakin. Obi-wan already knew a lot of Anakin's style and vice versa but Anakin's emotions interfered heavily. And Maul learned Tera Kasi from Sids. Once more, I fail to see how this is relevant: the novelization says Kit was one of the best duelists, and Sids is definitely a much stronger force user than Obi-wan
This whole argument is about why Sids wouldn't instakill Obi-Wan,and no,you(and even the ROTS novel,I have it right here infront of me) said that Kit was good in battle,not dueling,nice try.
And I requote:"Anakin may have be overwelmed with anger and grief,but that doesn't not make him dangerous."And you may be right about the fury part,but he is still the best FOrce User in the galaxy.
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"He defeated Agen Kolar, Saesee Tiin, Kit Fisto and Mace Windu, four of the best duelists our order has ever produced."
And once more: Sidious's usage of the force is beyond Obi's level
He didn't defeat Mace Windu,Anakin did,Mace was about to kill HIM(and don't give me that shit about Palpy kowing about Ankin,GL said it himself,Mace won,fair and square).And he defeated two with surprise and one with the guy not using a form for saber to saber combat.
And once more: Don't underestimate Obi-Wan,Sids underestimated the Rebels and Vader and Luke(who is weaker in Force Skill and dueling than even ANH Obi-Wan at that time),and it cost him his life.
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Oh for...that's what's quoted in the book by the characters. And by the by: We see them react to his leap. Agen is the one you can make a case for but Saesee and Kit? Kit and the other three are still described as such
And yes, I know Sidious underestimated the above, but I fail to see how Obi's going to put up a fight
No,they aren't.Do you even listen to the commentary by GL on the bonus disks?Palpy had his ass handed to him by Mace,and Saesee hesitates in the movie,see the scene again.And for the last time!KIT'S STYLE IS NOT MADE FOR SABER TO SABER COMBAT!!!!
And Sidious is going to underestimate Obi-Wan just like he underestimated Vader and Luke,and to quote Luke ROTJ: "Your overconfidence is your weakness." ,which isn't exactly far from the truth.Again,he might defeat Obi-Wan,but he certainly won't insta kill him.
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