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boxofdeath2.0
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To be good, Cowboys obvisualy need to get atleast a QB who is smart and does not give TO, and a great RB.


The cowboys are already good and they have neither of those.

And to be great (at least great enough to win a super bowl), you don't need both of those. They help, but they arent completely necessary.

QCar is perfectly capable of leading a team to a Super Bowl. He doesn't make too many stupid mistakes, the problem has just been that he is the focal point of the Cowboys offense. If youre a Defensive Coordinator and you know that the Cowboys have nothing that even resembles a running attack, you blitz QCar every single play without fail. If they draft a good RB (I pray that its Steven Jackson from Ore St.) it would take a lot of pressure off of QCar, thereby keeping the defense honest and limiting Quincy's mistakes and turnovers.

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I dont think he has the ability to lead them to the Super Bowl. Parcells decision to sign Henson is because Carter makes a boat load of mistakes each game. But i do agree they need a great RB to make Carter good enough to go to the playoff, but if the running game is shut down...the game is over and Cowboys lost.

But teams need atleast a great player in RB or QB. but if one of them is mediocre...then the team is screwed.

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I dont think he has the ability to lead them to the Super Bowl. Parcells decision to sign Henson is because Carter makes a boat load of mistakes each game. But i do agree they need a great RB to make Carter good enough to go to the playoff, but if the running game is shut down...the game is over and Cowboys lost.

But teams need atleast a great player in RB or QB. but if one of them is mediocre...then the team is screwed.


If Trent Dilfer can win a Super Bowl, Quincy Carter can too. With a good running attack, he will be lightyears better than what he was last season.

If our running attack gets shut down we dont automatically lose. We didnt have a running attack in 2003 and still managed to win 10.

You don't need a great RB or QB to win a Super Bowl. Tampa had an above-average QB in Brad Johnson and a fairly mediocre RB in Michael Pittman and won. The Ravens had Trent Dilfer, the worst QB to ever win a Super Bowl, and who knows who they had starting at RB that year.

You don't need great skill positions to win a Super Bowl. Granted, they help, but they aren't completely necessary.

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Tampa Bay and Baltimore also had great defenses. By great, i mean, compared to the all time defenses. The Cowboys' defense is good, but is no way at that level


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Well true, but if the team faces against a above average defense with a good offense with it....you rarely see the team go to the superbowl.
and Carter is no Brad Johnson or even Trent Dilfer....

Maybe not Baltimore, but Tampa Bay.. i think now Dallas is better.

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Dallas has the best defense in the NFL, and if they sign Vinny Testaverde, they will be super bowl material. And there's talk of drafting Kevin Jones or Chris Perry for their RB.

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Patriots, Panthers, Ravens and Dallas are the best defenses.
If Dallas get one more CB...i think they're better then the Ravens.

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Patriots, Panthers, Ravens and Dallas are the best defenses.
If Dallas get one more CB...i think they're better then the Ravens.


Yes I like the panthers defense also. Julius peepers is really good on the panthers defense. big grin

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Pepper's is a killer..but i think Jenkins is the key to that D line.
Roy Williams should of been the D rookie of the year...

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Pepper's is a killer..but i think Jenkins is the key to that D line.
Roy Williams should of been the D rookie of the year...


Yes Jenkins is definately one of the top players on the panthers defense.

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Yep Sir ee.

But i dont think they can get back to the superbowl.

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nope

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I think the Patriots are in one of those rare positions where they are going to hav a dynasty for more time than a dynasty usually lasts. they hav so many players that can play their defensive system and now they are going to hav another good draft with those two 1st round pics. They me off this year and they are going to piss me off for like 10 more yearsmad


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if only my chiefs would go after some defensive players...all they need is a mediocre defense...


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ya, their offense is something people dont see a lot. i thought their defense was ok this year, but if it was a little better, they would hav been in the Super Bowlyes


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their defense couldn't stop a good high school's offense last year


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well they were worse the year before thatlaughing out loud


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Yes...Manning killed them...literally....and it would of been a shut out if Indy had any sort of Defense also..
If Indy got a decent defense...they would be unstoppable.

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Yes...Manning killed them...literally....and it would of been a shut out if Indy had any sort of Defense also..
If Indy got a decent defense...they would be unstoppable.


yes, they would be stoppable. remember the afc championship game when manning threw about 29 interceptions? i dont think the indy defense had anything to do with that.

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ya, i think it had to do with the Pats being friggin crazy in their defensive schemebig grin

I still hav faith in the Packers though. They hav all 22 starters coming back and most of them are in their prime except for maybe Brett Favreerm
Id say they will get farther than the 2nd round. They could hav beaten Philly and I know for sure they could hav beaten Carolina. They wont win the Super Bowl anytime soon, but i think they can easily be the best in the NFCwink


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