I think they did the right thing, they traded "boo" scares for a game that was tense from beginning to end. And had game play light years ahead of the ancient controls of the original games.
That never bothered me, it added to the helplessness.
You could move with your gun in Dino Crisis. Dino Crisis; a game you'll remember as being made by the same people, in the same genre, but not as good as Resident Evil.
I do think Capcom are the only company who can replicate the dynamic of a game in different games and still have it be good or awesome.
From Resident Evil came Dino Crisis (Good) and Onimusha: Warlords (Awesome, in my opinion).
It bothered me.. I didn't care about helplessness I cared about realism, to an extent. If you're a crack CIA-esque agent then you should be able to move and shoot at the same time. Any "helplessness" I may have felt was overrun by sheer annoyance at that fact. What would have made more sense to me is if they had amde it so that you can shoot while moving backwards but the shot would be incredibly innacurate. That would make sensebecause if you're running backwards and you twist to shoot it's of course probably going to be wide. So That would be alright.
And I happened to like the Dinocrisis franchise more then Resident Evil.
But admittedly my favorite genre of video games if the run n' gun type so naturally any game with guns in it where I can't... run while gunning kind of annoys me. I don't think you not being able to move while shooting makes it a bad game overall I just personally don't like it because of that.
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Yet they are going to be missing out on a much bigger portion of the Game industry. THe Wii could definitely make a extremely good RE game. I mean if the Gamecube could do RE4 imagine an actual Wii RE and not some rail shooter that is Umbrella Chroniciles
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The gamecube was not nearly as far behind the other two systems in graphics, and online aspects meant very little at the time that RE:4 came out if I remember correctly. Now it's just... weak.
If Capcom made RE:5 for for the Wii they would have to dumb it down considerably, and they'd have to dumb down everything. AI, graphics, almost everything. Then they would "make up for it" by giving it additional, Wii-exclusive content or something. The same way they're doing it for the Force Unleashed.
Blaxican has the Wii and 360 but if I had to choose between buying a version with good graphics, good online content, and good gameplay, or buy the Wii version with poor graphics, poor AI, and a "wii-exclusive" dual mode and one or two shitty Wii-exclusive extra levels.. I'd go with the 360 version. The only thing the Wii actually has going for it as a system is it's Wii-mote. But the "magic" becomes lack-luster after playing Metroid Prime 3.
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I'm missing the boat here, I think. I don't understand this.
Also, ok, the Wii has been slow off the blocks with amounts of games released, but for me it has Metroid, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles and Pro Evo Wii.
Those alone put it above the PS3.
You care about...realism? In Resident Evil? Are you serious? You're expecting humanly accurate combat skills in a game that doesn't necessarily require it. It's not even like you're JUST asking for the ability to move while shooting, which comes down to preference; I don't care that it's NOT there, wouldn't care if it was added. You're not suggesting the man needs to be Jackie Chan. That's just not the game's style.
Run 'n' gun? Like...Devil May Cry? If so, no surprise that you don't like Resident Evil franchise that much.
They're poor in comparison to the 360 and PS3 I mean.
And let me just establish that yes. I am a graphics whore. Graphics in a game mean a lot to me. I am one of "those" people.
Good for you man. Blax feels the same way. I don't.
Uh- yeah it is. I didn't say that the game overall needed to be more realistic. I just said that that aspect in general. They sacrificed common sense for a gameplay aspect that as far as I am concerned, didn't even work.
Hooray.
Congratulations you have an opinion on the matter. So do I. And in my opinion you should be able to shoot and move at the same time. Especially in a game where a large portion of the enemy can only hurt you by getting close to you.
Perhaps that's why I said I don't like it? Maybe that is why I went out of my way to state that I prefer run n' gun games?
A) I've never even played Devil may Cry. From what I've seen of the games I probably would not like them. B) Why is it at all a surprise? I already said why I didn't like it.
A) They're still not "poor". One thing not being better than another doesn't make it poor.
B) Then your opinion on gaming quality is invalid, since you are a graphics whore.
That's because you're a graphics whore, so your opinion wouldn't apply to putting games above others based on enjoyment. You do realise that opening statement is going to actually render it near impossible for you to have a respectable opinion on relevant gaming quality, right?
Didn't work FOR YOU. Why are you even playing Resident Evil? Go play Devil May Cry on Xbox 360 with it's lush graphics and 4+ years and up gameplay.
Yeah, well, I happen to be good enough at the game to not get battered when I play it. I guess that's the risk you run when you actually play games for how they play, and don't hold graphics up as a holy grail.
Then stop playing them, don't play them and moan, that's idiocy.
The only thing I have to say about graphics is that Wii cant produce the amount of graphics that the other two systems can provide but that doesnt mean that the graphics are not up to snuff.
Take Metriod Prime 3, Zelda TP, or Super Mario Galaxy and I must say that those games made me forget about high end graphics at all. The art design is just simply amazing which overshadows the amount of polygons it is.
But in the growing years, it would be nice to see a new Zelda game be in HD because I think that amount of detail could make a Zelda game that much better.
When it comes down to FPS though, I hate to say but great graphics do make a huge amount of difference in the immersion factor, but if the game is shit, no amount of graphics can help that.
I look at Crysis for example and how great the graphics made you feel while walking through the levels. It totally immersed me in the game and I sometimes forgot I was walking through a level, but an actual forest. It also helped the game that I really liked the gameplay. But in the end,if the graphics were a few years old, the game would not nearly be as effective.
Yes it does as long as it's in comparison to something else. If I had said that Wii graphics were just poor in general and overall, then I would be wrong. But as long as I'm only comparing them to the other two systems I'm perfectly valid in saying they're poor as they are poor when set side by side to the other two systems.
Nah. That'd only be true if I based a game totally off of it's graphics, which I don't. I do for example find Halo 1 and 2 to be better games then Halo 3 even though Halo 3 had better graphics. I still think Starcraft is one of the best games ever made even though most games these days destroy it in graphics quality.
lol no. Way to generalize though.
Well it doesn't matter much. In the end it's nothing then my opinion versus yours. And I don't care much for yours, and you think mine is invalid, so again I don't really care what you're opinion is of me or of my opinion on gaming quality.
Yeah. For ME. Stop trying to act like I'm trying to pass off my opinion as fact. It's making you look foolish. I've made it a point multiple times to establish that everything I'm talking about is just my own opinion in regards to the game, it's gameplay, and it's quality.
I played the fourth one when it came out because I had heard lots of good reviews about it and it was recommended to me by a friend.
Why did you play Halo 3 even though you apparently didn't like the first two?
You're not even making sense at this point. Quit your rambling.
Wow. Really? L-L-L-L-like. oh emm gee. You must be the gaming freakin god.
Relevance? I beat the game as well. Didn't get "battered" either. If me being a "graphics whore" darkens any opinion you have of me then your constant generalizations and false assumptions and little jabs at me completely shatter both your argument and whatever positive opinion I may have had of you.
Heh. More assumptions read above.
hm... how about hell no, and if you don't like what I say just ignore my posts? I'm just as entitled as anyone here to play a game and then discuss my opinion on it.
*shrug*
Whatever dude.
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That's your opinion, then. I don't think the Wii's graphics look poor in comparison.
Fair enough. Though that's what "Graphics whore" usually means.
Yes, actually. You're not a graphics whore in the true sense of the word, so it doesn't apply to you.
Then you're discussing it, why?
Why would I say you're passing it off as fact? I told you it didn't work FOR YOU. That implies I'm not taking what you say as you saying it as fact.
Because I was at a friend's house and everyone was playing multiplayer, so I joined in. I didn't make a specific effort to play the game.
It made sense. It was me suggesting easier games for you, games that also satisfy your graphics hunger.
I care as much about your opinion of me as you do of mine about you.
How is it constant assumptions? You have unrealistic expectations and demands for the game. You care about "realism" in a game containing giant, mutated worms and the walking dead. You knock points off because you can't run, pivot, turn and fire like...a real militant trained person.
It doesn't shatter my argument at all.
Read above.
Making an effort to buy and play a game that you know will continue in a style you dislike, or with physics or controls you will moan about, is idiocy. You forfeit the right to complain if you do that. You have a chance to avoid something you dislike, and you're not.
For someone pretty apathetic, you sure have a lot invested in your replies.
I wasn't trying to pass it off as anything other then that.
Granted..
Hooray!
Because this is a discussion forum. This is a place people go to to discuss their opinion on things.
Why would you even need to imply anything when I have specifically stated that this is all just my opinion? It's getting redundant with me saying it's my opinion then you saying it's my opinion.
Cool.
Well thanks but no thanks. Devil may Cry looks like a boring series. I played the demo for the third one and I didn't like it.
It's more assumptions because you continue to assume that because I like graphics that automatically means that they influence my opinion on the quality of a game. That is a false assumption. I do not "hold graphics on a holy grail" like you say I do.
And that's a bad thing? There are plenty of games with unrealistic sci-fi environments that still use simple logic and common sense in it's gameplay.
I didn't know that that the game was like that when I bought it. I've only played the fourth one. I didn't know when I bought it that you couldn't shoot and fire at the same time. I bought the game. Played it. beat it. Decided that it wasn't my type of game, and after I beat it I traded it.
Forfeit the right according to... who? You?
Who are you?
Not really. I went into the game not knowing what to expect, played it and decided it wasn't for me. So now I avoid it. I won't be buying RE:5 I can tell you.
You labelled yourself a graphics whore, at the time I was playing the cards I was dealt.
Nothing about Resident Evil's control scheme, to me, suggests a lack of common sense or logic.
It just makes you look ridiculous if you, knowing that's a control scheme inherent to the games, still choose to buy it despite disliking it. You then have no right to start moaning about it. You could have avoided it, you chose not to.
It's like voting Bush into power and then moaning.
Which is what I just said.
It's pretty much a fact. Hence why you replied to all this, and why you'll definitely reply to every quote, again.
Common sense dictates that if someone has a knife and they're walking toward you with the intent to assault you with said knife and you have a gun you should try to stay out of range of the knife and use your rannged weapon to your advantage. Thus, if you are in a cemetary for example and five zombies are walking toward you, and you can't kill them all before they reach you, then you should be backpeddling away from them while shooting them. You don't stand there shooting until they all converge upon you and then try to backpeddle. It's common sense.
Ah. I see the problem now. You misundertsood what I was saying.
I had no idea what the game was like when I bought it. As far as I knew it was just another game where you ran around killing baddies, albeit with some puzzles added in. I didn't realize that that is how the game played until after I bought it. Now that I know how the games like however I won't be buying it.
I reply because I'm suck at home for a couple hours bored and I have nothing else to do and I'm in a goofy mood. So yep I'll reply to this one. I've been talking to another memebr though and I probably won't reply to next one.
Exactly, that's not a flaw in the game, it's a flaw in your ability to play it. You take them out, if they get too close, you move away, re-position and keep firing. It's not a problem that you cannot move while shooting, it doesn't demean your ability to repel zombies, unless you're shit at it and wait until they're on top of you.
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I for one would be fine with either moving and shooting or the old one. I mean it takes just a little getting used to when you first play but unless you are that bad you shouldn't be getting hit TOO much. But judging by the number of zombies that appear in all the trailers and such it would CERTAINLY be a welcome addition.
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Moving while shooting? No thanks. Thats way too easy. Remember how easy it was to avoid and run past enemies in RE4? Imagine how easy and boring that game would have been if you could shoot while running circles around you enemy. I like the current gameplay style.
Also, for anyone complaining about Chris' arms, think about it. It makes since. If I had a guy like Wesker on my ass, I'd be working out more than a proffesional wrestler. Not to mention all the crap the dudes been through in his life.'
How freakin awesome is this!? Billy may appear in RE5 with Chris and Sherry! Thats epic!
It makes sense too. Billy got out of the US and moved to some remote area in africa to start a new life. I'd buy the story. Not to mention most of you know the dude has history in africa. He was framed by his team and took the fall for the slaughter of an entire village of people so he has reasons. This is amazing! Also, as a side note, heres a farther away pic of Sherry.
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I'm liking the short hair and black leather. You can already tell she's going to whoop all kinds of butt!
Heres even more news. A recent issue of famitsu or whatever shows there are two girls in this game. One of them we know is sherry, but whos the other one? Jill? Clair? Someone new?
Also, the return of the Chainsaw wielding baddies!!!!!:biggrin:
God, look at the chainsaw! So shiny and sharp and just plain out deadly looking!
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