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Neo Darkhalen
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She doesn't matter, so it doesn't matter what they do.

Thus my point.

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She obviously matters to alot of people ergo her appearance in Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Resident Evil 5 oh and the fact she was the main character of 3, fair enough you don't like her but that doesn't mean every other person in the world has to find her useless and certainly doesn't mean we have to pretend she doesn't exist and doesn't matter.

I like Jill she's better then all those damsel in distress or whiny Ashley types that's for damn sure.

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She obviously matters to alot of people ergo her appearance in Marvel Vs Capcom 2, Resident Evil 5 oh and the fact she was the main character of 3, fair enough you don't like her but that doesn't mean every other person in the world has to find her useless and certainly doesn't mean we have to pretend she doesn't exist and doesn't matter.

I like Jill she's better then all those damsel in distress or whiny Ashley types that's for damn sure.


She was the main character of three for no other reason than because she was a familiar sprite, and the story wasn't far ENOUGH removed to warrant an entirely new character. Three isn't essential to the story, it doesn't move the plot along, it's just saying "Meanwhile, as the actual plot of two was happening, Jill was doing stuff.".

The FACTS show she is not an essential plot character. The facts, not my opinion.

The only reason they'd ever do anything with her is because fans keep asking. She wasn't written to be a main plot character. Her story wasn't even canon in the first game, Chris's was.

YOU liking her doesn't make her matter.

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And the highest combo I remember getting was 94 on Public Assembly (would've gotten higher, but the game session stopped a couple minutes early, having killed all the enemies in the level).

Scratch that. I just got a combo of 100 today with tribal Sheva on PA (I was using battle suit Jill when I got 94 earlier on). If me and my random partner (who was midnight Wesker) had gotten the last enemy before the combo time ran out, then we would've gotten 101... lol

I has also gotten better at handling Wesker's speed dash properly. Depending on your control scheme, basically just press right trigger to do his knee attack while running (which adds 5 seconds to your time like any other melee attack if you kill a zombie with it), and change direction by pressing a direction with the stick you click to dash and the A-button. I like going in the same directions back and forth to do speed combos against random majinis. It's fun. big grin

And lol @ RE3 not being essential to the story.


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DLC is coming to RES 5, not only 2 new costumes for the PC version which I will link to now:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_resid...es-8273_en.html

Also DLC costumes have been confirmed, on Capcom-unity fans were asked to make a list of costumes they would like to see by the Friday and then that list would be sent on to Capcom's Japanese development site.

So DLC begins, I'm not that interested in costumes but hey...it's a start right?

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How is RE3 not canon?


huh? it is...

also, dying to get this on pc. finally i get to play through it.


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huh? it is...

also, dying to get this on pc. finally i get to play through it.


Same here. Couldn't give less of a damn about the costumes though.


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How is RE3 not canon?


Who said non-canon? I said non-plot necessary. Remove it from the story and you lose NOTHING of plot importance.

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Who said non-canon? I said non-plot necessary. Remove it from the story and you lose NOTHING of plot importance.

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Yeah but that could be said for any RES game, I like RES but even I know the plot is stupid as hell.

Also there is importance in RES3 due to the Nemisis infecting Jill she produced powerful antibodies against the T-Virus these antibodies formed the basis for Uroboros a key plot point in RES5 and without them Wesker would have never created Uroboros.

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DLC is coming to RES 5, not only 2 new costumes for the PC version which I will link to now:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_resid...es-8273_en.html

Also DLC costumes have been confirmed, on Capcom-unity fans were asked to make a list of costumes they would like to see by the Friday and then that list would be sent on to Capcom's Japanese development site.

So DLC begins, I'm not that interested in costumes but hey...it's a start right?

Heh, I guess so. The secretary costume of Sheva with glasses sure looks interesting.. but Chris's costume = lol WTF?
I'm curious to see if they'll give new outfits to Jill and Wesker as well.


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Yeah but that could be said for any RES game, I like RES but even I know the plot is stupid as hell.

Also there is importance in RES3 due to the Nemisis infecting Jill she produced powerful antibodies against the T-Virus these antibodies formed the basis for Uroboros a key plot point in RES5 and without them Wesker would have never created Uroboros.


It couldn't be said for any Resi game. Take out number 2 and you miss massive plot, take out 1 or 4 and you miss massive plot.

3 was nothing more than a "Meanwhile...while the actual story is happening, someone all you pre-teen boys like was doing something else.". It's a good game, it's just not plot necessary.

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It couldn't be said for any Resi game. Take out number 2 and you miss massive plot, take out 1 or 4 and you miss massive plot.

3 was nothing more than a "Meanwhile...while the actual story is happening, someone all you pre-teen boys like was doing something else.". It's a good game, it's just not plot necessary.

-AC


and that's fine, but is how relevant it is to the plot really that big a deal? i mean, resident evil games have never really been about deep, well structured plots, and the whole "parasites that make people in to zombies that aren't really zombies" thing was always kinda stupid in my eyes.

also, on the subject, the re2 "will leon and ada ever make it or will their loyalties get in the way" thing was the best of a bad bunch of storylines, imo.


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It couldn't be said for any Resi game. Take out number 2 and you miss massive plot, take out 1 or 4 and you miss massive plot.

3 was nothing more than a "Meanwhile...while the actual story is happening, someone all you pre-teen boys like was doing something else.". It's a good game, it's just not plot necessary.

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Doesn't change a thing Darkhalen said here apparently:

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Also there is importance in RES3 due to the Nemisis infecting Jill she produced powerful antibodies against the T-Virus these antibodies formed the basis for Uroboros a key plot point in RES5 and without them Wesker would have never created Uroboros.

You can't have Uroboros without the antibodies Jill produced from being infected by the Nemesis in RE3, so if you were to take that game out of the picture, RE5 would pretty much be taken out as well since there would be no Uroboros... thus you would miss a huge piece of massive plot.

And lol @ the pre-teens comment.


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You can't have Uroboros without the antibodies Jill produced from being infected by the Nemesis in RE3, so if you were to take that game out of the picture, RE5 would pretty much be taken out as well since there would be no Uroboros... thus you would miss a huge piece of massive plot.

And lol @ the pre-teens comment.


False.

The Uroboros project was already planned. He kidnapped her after she tackled him out the window to use her as a test subject for it. The only reason he discovered her anti-bodies was because he put her into cryo-stasis which re-activated the virus. When it died off, he then used the anti-bodies to IMPROVE Uroboros, not create it.

So no, she isn't necessary. 5 would have happened anyway. Either way, Jill even being involved in this was determined by her diving out of the window. Had she not, Wesker wouldn't have had her; fact. Uroboros would have still gone ahead in some form.

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It may be a rumor, it may be true.

http://www.destructoid.com/rumortoi...ng-149675.phtml

Either way I find this very interesting...

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I hope it's true. Somethin' that should've happened since around the beginning of the game's release. If it doesn't happen though, I'll live.


On a similar note, movie plot to new RE movie revealed... lol?

http://www.destructoid.com/oh-god-n...ed-149565.phtml

Guess I should've seen that kind of thing comin'. Oh well.
Needless to say, it won't have much Wesker, if at all.


There's also motion-sensing controls coming to the PS3 version of RE5 apparently. no expression Basically pulling a Wii on it.


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Yeah I read about these stories as well, (the motion one just now actually) the film sounds well meh, I have no interest in them so whatever, something about zombies in a prison from what I gather.

I honestly fail to see the point in re-releasing RES 5 with sixaxis what have you but eh they've done the same sort of thing with every other game in the series.

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Yeah I read about these stories as well, (the motion one just now actually) the film sounds well meh, I have no interest in them so whatever, something about zombies in a prison from what I gather.

Yeah, I doubt I'll go out of my way to see it. Probably just watch it if I come across it on TV like I did RE Extinction and the others.

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I honestly fail to see the point in re-releasing RES 5 with sixaxis what have you but eh they've done the same sort of thing with every other game in the series.

Yeah. Go figure.


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Apparently the flashback scene (during the mansion fight) will now be playable.

http://www.destructoid.com/tgs-09-f...as-150045.phtml

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