Cersei is a memorably fantastic character and brilliantly portrayed by Lena Headey. The shitty writing surrounding season 7 did much to boost her intellectual stock from previous seasons. But she's more ruthless than she is competent or wise.
This reminds that we never finished our Tywin discussion.
Cersei is obviously intelligent, but she does seem to be outclassed by some other characters as far as intelligence and cunning are concerned (Tyrion, probably Tywin, as well). I’ve seen mistakes on her part that I don’t think we would see from a more precise, calculating, and cerebral individual like Claire Underwood, though. I’d agree with Tempest in that it’s her ruthlessness that’s her more dangerous and prominent trait.
Except for when it comes to his children, apparently.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
I don’t blame you. Season 7 was shit all the way around, but the writers broke it off in Baelish particularly for him to be so utterly outwitted.
He was definitely the single biggest contributor to their deep seated issues. But he successfully cowed them for 40 some years, which is a hell of a thing.
Tywin is still the most competent ruler and player the show has seen by a mile. What a boss.
Varys must at the very least be commended for his longevity in the game while starting out one of the most disadvantaged (and unlike Littlefinger his disadvantages are pretty much unassailable in Westeros).
Having stopped watching the show around when Dorne was a thing (a terrible thing) it irritates me to see a discussion of how smart Cersei is when one of the most entertaining aspects of her in the book is how dumb and crazy she is while simultaneously thinking she's a genius. 'Here's a great idea, lets build a really expensive, really powerful fleet and give it to a known pirate who fought for Stannis because I think he's hot and I'm drunk as shit. I am the great, daddy was so wrong about me!'
Another thing from the book is realising that Tyrion is actually an easily manipulated dumbass and he only seems like a genius because its his perspective and he's pretty charming.
No-one has anything on Wyman Manderly.
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Last edited by Nephthys on May 19th, 2018 at 09:22 AM
don't worry, she's just as dumb and crazy in the show. 90% of circe's plans have either failed outright or backfire terrifically. The only reason she's still standing is because she was lucky enough to have everyone that she loves around her pay for her shenanigans in her place.
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"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
"The Daemon lied with every breath. It could not help itself but to deceive and dismay, to riddle and ruin. The more we conversed, the closer I drew to one singularly ineluctable fact: I would gain no wisdom here."
May 17th, 2018 08:20 PM
