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Ieatbabies
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Originally posted by InnerRise
No matter how many lines Angel had, you still want to get the casting right for the role, especially if they plan on doing a sequel.

Would you have preferred a short hairy woman to play Angel instead just b/c of the amount of screen time.

There are no small parts, just small actors.

is it comprehensible.....


I actually would have preferred a better looking actor for the role of Angel. This Angel (not to sound gay) wasn't a very...pretty one. His appearance in the comics if compared to that of a very handsome God, or something along those lines. I also wanted a stronger actor. I didn't like the way this Angel sounded when he talked. erm

I also don't think they were planning on a sequel for X3. They said before that they are almost positive this is the last one, so I think that's basically the reason Ratner killed off the major, major characters in the last movie.

Angel also had some stupid parts as well.


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bad idea to just put in as many mutants as possible. psylocke is a big character in x-men so im surprised he (singer) lumped her in with the bad guys and gave her 0 lines.
i think she got one when the lab lady was running away.if you ask me it seems as if they just threw colossus and kitty in with the good guy.but of all the new mutants jubilee should have been in this after being in the last two movies.what colossus gets one scene and he's apart of the team when the jubster been in to movies.then i guess they needed an bruiser Wait they go Logan for that.call me crazy but we could have made an better movie.whats up with this Emma frost spin off that trick has no right having an movie yet

angle i liked his body but his face.oh no. yes he didn't sound like angle


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imo ben foster who played angel did suit the part of angel well. i dont understand who everyone is comparing the actor to. if it is the cartoon versions then you can say that half the cast looked wrong in their roles.


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Guess what? I'm allowed to not like the 3rd movie if I want. What a concept! Okay...
#1- NEVER did I say that Wolverine needed to get with Storm. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out the fact that due to lines and acting, Wolverine appears to have more chemistry with Storm than with Jean.
#2- Yes. You would have had to have been an idiot not to realize that they were trying to emphasize the "love" between Wolverine and Jean. I am simply stating that they should not have killed Cyclops because this would have been a chance for him to develop also. It doesn't have to be about Wolverine all the time!
#3- "Love is stronger than any power on earth"? roll eyes (sarcastic) No offense or anything, but I went into the theatre to see an X-men movie, not a "How much Wolverine and Jean are in love" movie. They focused WAAAY too much on the love story part of this movie.
#4- You're saying that having new characters is an excuse for having a barely-there plot?
#5- I don't know about you, but I'd rather have fewer mutants in there with better character depth than a million of them who only have about 3 seconds of screen time.
#6- I think Halle was disappointing.
#7- In Canada, a 6/10 is below average...

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The whole Movie felt wrong.

yes

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I actually would have preferred a better looking actor for the role of Angel. This Angel (not to sound gay) wasn't a very...pretty one. His appearance in the comics if compared to that of a very handsome God, or something along those lines. I also wanted a stronger actor. I didn't like the way this Angel sounded when he talked. erm

I also don't think they were planning on a sequel for X3. They said before that they are almost positive this is the last one, so I think that's basically the reason Ratner killed off the major, major characters in the last movie.

Angel also had some stupid parts as well.

It makes no since to say Ratner killed off some characters b/c this is the last movie.

And actually, it's up in the air whether this is the last movie or not.
It's been said by many of the people in charge that it just depends on the right time and if a good storyline comes up. So there's no definite thing stating this is the last movie.

No one knows, it all depends on what happens.

So that's not why some characters got killed off and it's not definite that all of them are dead.

We didn't see Scot die, we see that the professor inhabits another body, and we all know that the Phoenix always rises again and it's possible that Jean could actually be in a cocoon at the bottom of the lake with the Jean we saw in the movie being just a copy of the real Jean.

is it comprehensible.....


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It makes no since to say Ratner killed off some characters b/c this is the last movie.

And actually, it's up in the air whether this is the last movie or not.
It's been said by many of the people in charge that it just depends on the right time and if a good storyline comes up. So there's no definite thing stating this is the last movie.

No one knows, it all depends on what happens.

So that's not why some characters got killed off and it's not definite that all of them are dead.

We didn't see Scot die, we see that the professor inhabits another body, and we all know that the Phoenix always rises again and it's possible that Jean could actually be in a cocoon at the bottom of the lake with the Jean we saw in the movie being just a copy of the real Jean.

is it comprehensible.....


i had this really good image in my head of the phoenix flame thing flying into the ground where jean is buried. some sort of explosion and jeans decomposing body then hovering in mid air as the fire of the phoenix enters her her bodies restores


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ok,i've just watchd it...
i didnt get the same ending as everyone else!!!!

the movie was ok,but they seam to kill everyone off which was a lil poo.

vinny jones as juggernant was just utter bull shat!
he was crap,
juggernant should have been huge like he was in the cartoons!!


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ok,i've just watchd it...
i didnt get the same ending as everyone else!!!!

the movie was ok,but they seam to kill everyone off which was a lil poo.

vinny jones as juggernant was just utter bull shat!
he was crap,
juggernant should have been huge like he was in the cartoons!!
You'd think since you didn't get the same ending you'd explain what you did get.

is it comprehensible.....


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Originally posted by katie_girl09
Guess what? I'm allowed to not like the 3rd movie if I want. What a concept! Okay...
#1- NEVER did I say that Wolverine needed to get with Storm. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm just pointing out the fact that due to lines and acting, Wolverine appears to have more chemistry with Storm than with Jean.

Thoughts still the same. The fact remains both in comics and in movies.. and in cartoons that Wolverine loves Jean Grey. Wolverine had a lot of chemistry with, as far as X-Men universe is concerned. Rogue, Shadowcat, Illiana, Jubilee, etc. This doesn't change the fact that Logan loves Jean. What you saw in the movie between Wolverine and Storm is a matter of personal opinion and therefore doesn't give BAD POINTS for the movie [as you're saying]
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#2- Yes. You would have had to have been an idiot not to realize that they were trying to emphasize the "love" between Wolverine and Jean. I am simply stating that they should not have killed Cyclops because this would have been a chance for him to develop also. It doesn't have to be about Wolverine all the time!

The lovelife of Scott and Jean was already developed as how it starts in the first movie. So, no sense.
It appears Cyclops died. But nobody knows what actually happened. The memories of Jean Grey as Phoenix was unstable even the powerful telepath like the Prof couldn't comprehend. He himself cannot be so sure of what really happened.
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#3- "Love is stronger than any power on earth"? roll eyes (sarcastic) No offense or anything, but I went into the theatre to see an X-men movie, not a "How much Wolverine and Jean are in love" movie. They focused WAAAY too much on the love story part of this movie.

I don't know what stuffs you expect in the X-Men. X-Men involves mutants hated and feared by people... they only want one important thing : LOVE.
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#4- You're saying that having new characters is an excuse for having a barely-there plot?

Not everyone says that. So not a proof of BAD POINT for the movie.
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#5- I don't know about you, but I'd rather have fewer mutants in there with better character depth than a million of them who only have about 3 seconds of screen time.

Same here, I don't know about you. But a lot of people here, including other fanatics who are not here, were indeed very glad to see them in cameo. I was right when I used the term "excite".
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#6- I think Halle was disappointing.

Okay. All Halle fans will disagree with you.
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#7- In Canada, a 6/10 is below average...

In general, 6 is above average.


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Don't know if this is the right place to put this, but in my movie theatre, the scene where Juggernaut says he can't swim to get to Alcatraz was cut out of the film. I've seen the film on opening day and the scene was in there. Is this supposed to happen?


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i think i remeber that scene^^^^



uhhh where the **** was nightcrawler?


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Alan Cumming bitched and moaned about the make-up and decided not to come back.

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Psylocke had two lines.

Line 1: "They wanna' exterminate us!" (In the abandoned church)

Line 2: "Going somewhere?" (On Alchatraz Island).

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Originally posted by katie_girl09
I just wanna say what I thought about the movie...
The good:
-The fight scenes in this 3rd installment were waaay better than those of the original 2
-Wolverine got a slightly smaller role
-Storm got a bigger role
-The portrayal of Pheonix was much better than I thought it would be

The bad:
-Okay, seriously: by the middle of the movie I wanted to smack Wolverine. Didn't anyone else find him extremely annoying? All he does is whine about Jean the whole time. He's been at the X-mansion for how long? And he's crying like a sissy because he's in love with her? Didn't anyone else notice that in this movie (and all the others) he's had waaaay more chemistry with Storm than he's ever had with Jean? I mean, she's not even his girlfriend! Speaking of which...
-They actually killed off Cyclops?!? Are you kidding me?? I mean, don't get me wrong, I hate Cyclops. But if anyone in this movie should have been crying and professing their love for Jean it should have been him! This should have developed the relationship between Jean and Cyclops. But nooooooo! It has to be Jean and WOLVERINE. Because everything always has to be about Wolverine even when it should be about someone else.
-Pheonix is basically a goddess. Prof. X couldn't stop her, but Wolverine manages to kill her by stabbing he in the stomach? I didn't buy that. Sorry.
-Of all three movies made, this one has the weakest, most indistinguishable plot
-Why introduce so many new mutants when they are barely used?
-Even with her expanded role, Halle still made a poor Storm imo
If I were to grade this movie, I would give it a 6/10. But in direct comparison to the previous two, I would give it a much lower grade. It just felt off and rushed.


You forgot the crappy fight between Pyro and Iceman. Very dissappointing...

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ok,i've just watchd it...
i didnt get the same ending as everyone else!!!!


well, what ending did you get???? you're from the UK too and everytime ive seen it , it has been the Prof X ending.


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You forgot the crappy fight between Pyro and Iceman. Very dissappointing...


I thought the fight was great! big grin


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I thought the fight was great! big grin

And what have you been smoking lately.



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colossus had one line in the whole movie
Iceman: where's rogue
Colossus: She left


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You'd think since you didn't get the same ending you'd explain what you did get.

is it comprehensible.....


i got Magneto sitting in a park playing chess,making a peieces move with his hand....

or is there more after that?


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