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I simply can't understand it, can somone explain me why did obi wan...
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Re: I simply can't understand it, can somone explain me why did obi wan...

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Why did Obi Wan Kenobi disappeared after been hit by Vader's lightsaber?
And why did he let Darth Vader kill him? It has no sense!!!!!!!


In short, Obi-Wan Disappeared and came "one" with the force witch explains why he comes back as a force ghost and partaily helps luke by giving him tips, take hoth for example he shows up and tells him to go to dagohbah.

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Episode III answered this question finally - this thread can be put to rest now.


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The reason that Obi Wan let Vader kill him was because Luke had to confront Vader. If Obi Wan would have fought Vader, Luke may have never gotten the chance and therefore would have never known that Vader was his father and he never would have got to confront him. I don't know what to say about the disappearing thing though. I agree with Corran. Maybe Obi Wan and Yoda joined the force as they died, becoming one with it so that they could help Luke.


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uh...ya..thats kinda the point. Supposedly, Qui-Gon was supposed to appear in Ep3, but Liam Nesson didn't want to for some reason or another, and so like always, GL came up with a half assed explanation on the spot. But I agree that he didn't show up at the end of ROTJ because Luke didn't know him so what would the point be?

OB1 gave himself to the force, and Yoda just slipped in to the force. Ive heard that Vader disappears "off-screen" but who knows. And I heard that they used young Anakin because thats the last time he was physically whole. Had he appeared old (like he originally did) he would have no legs and two half arms....kinda funny looking, don't you agree? So thats why, at least thats what i think....but you could say its symbolic as well.


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They were smart not to show Qui-Gonn in RotS. It'd pretty much ruin the ending.

Obi-Wan used the immortality ghost trick to become one with the Force. It's as simple as that...

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See, i would think he would have to become one with the force before he could do the force ghost trick. Maybe thats the way you meant it, but i don't know. I think that he gave him self to the force(letting vader kill him) so he COULD become the ghost to help luke in times he wouldn't normally be able to. I also always figured that once they become one with the force that they learn things about the force they could not know while alive. kinda like anakin saying , "I know there are things about the force they aren't telling me." So they didn't know to tell him, but since he was the chosen one, he could kinda sense that there was something "more" out there. Know what i mean?


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It's been referred to as "becoming one with the Force" for a LONG time, long before The Phantom Menace. Come on, people.

Furthermore, yes, you must become one with the Force to become a Force ghost.


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How did the Sith do it then? Did they do what the "hated" Jedi do, and become one with the Force that they abused?


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It's actually ironic and was explained in the clone wars tv series, created by Lucas. In III, Yoda had pretty much just got back from a journey qui-gon led him to in order to understand the light side of the force enough to "keep one's identity" after death, and not just become part of the cosmic force. Qui-gon wasn't able to finish this training so he could only speak to the living, but Yoda learned to form an image of himself. At around the end of III, you'll remember Yoda telling Obiwan that he has to teach him something specific taught to him by Quigon before he went to be a hermit/guardian on Tatooine. This was that training. I guess the ironic part is that although the dark side seems more physical and powerful.. plus the emperor promised this power to Anakin.. the light side was the only path to immortality. cool
Obiwan let Vader kill him because in that moment he realized he could train Luke much faster and better if he was within his mind, which was a trick of being an immortal, communicating with only one person at a time.. in the trilogy, Obiwan could tell when Luke was in need of some words of wisdom, or a just reminder to use the force. He couldn't have helped Luke destroy the death star in IV if he hadn't have done it.

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8 years later.


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lol well for closure's sake.

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