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What boggles my mind is that if his bones are completely laced with adamantium then how come he can create blood cells? Because those are created in the bone marrow.


When the adamantium bonded to his skeleton it transformed into "beta adamantium", this was due to his specific mutant genes. Beta admantium is just as durable as true adamantium, except it doesn't interfere with the biological processes of the body.

Lucky for Logan, eh.


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If he lost an arm would it grow back?


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Yes.


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wolverine cannot regrow limbs e.g. wolverine alt timeline age of apocalypse. He has an incredibly fast healing factor, not regenerative as to regrowth of limbs. (...)


Wolverine's HF is a regenerative one. AoA is not canon to 616.


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At one point he could even regrow his head. But now that would more than likely kill him as his hf has taken a few hits what with cancelling his deal with Azrael, and his possession and the like.

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To be fair, Lazaer/Azrael said that cancelling the deal only might weaken his HF; his feats remained on the same or at least similar level.

The Best There Is' writer also wanted to reduce Logan's HF, but if other writers don't approve it's simply not gonna happen, period.


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cannon has him with an indestructible skeleton, aoa was cannon for those writers, his regeneration then was no less than the current dimensional Logan. as for x men timelines and stories they are all cannon, its not like star wars lucas cannon and expanded univ. If cannon limits to the original logan no its not regenerative its healing only, so if we go back to the 1975 giant sized your wrong. even the hulk where he first appeared again your wrong.

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cannon has him with an indestructible skeleton, aoa was cannon for those writers, his regeneration then was no less than the current dimensional Logan. as for x men timelines and stories they are all cannon, its not like star wars lucas cannon and expanded univ. If cannon limits to the original logan no its not regenerative its healing only, so if we go back to the 1975 giant sized your wrong. even the hulk where he first appeared again your wrong.
Wtf are you talking about?

AOA is not 616 Wolverine. They are two completely different characters.


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they are the same person from two alternate realities, this is the point you aren't following.

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problem is with so called cannon for comics dc screwed the pooch trying to link golden age to silver to cosmic age with alternate earths , not learning from this cheezy idea marvel has done the same over the years. Wolverine was never intended to be near cloning in regenerative healing, as secret wars suggest.
I prefer the wolverine of classic x men circa 1975 through 1988 before he became ridiculous. Once my favorite scrapper of all now I can;t hardly stand that toon.
with him entering into every suffering comic books he has been rewritten over and over so really there is no cannon.
He may have regrown skin from his skeleton but initially the idea was enhanced healing olfactory hearing and indestructible skeleton.
Whats next cellular regen to the level that each drop of blood will begin to build on a clone of itself?
Its become ridiculous.

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616 isnt cannon to the original story either.

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616 is the absolute canon to Marvel Continuity. What happens in 616 is all that needs worrying about.

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they are the same person from two alternate realities, this is the point you aren't following.
Alternate realities makes them not the same person...


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alternate realities alters their life choices so they may differ psychologically but physically they remain the same. AR"S come about through editorial and writer ego alone they want to expand upon but when you have a character that's already super successful there is no reason to expand. Others choose to use cannon as a topic point but all these 616 aoa are not cannon cannon started with the adoption as a main character that began in 1975. the writing of x men from 75 to circa 87 is what most in the industry would call cannon.

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Salt, you better stop posting when you have no idea what you're trying to discuss.

Alternate realities don't count, period. And Wolverine actually has regrown left arm in Marvel Universe vs. Wolverine #4... non-616 just like AoA... so there you go, two different portrayals of his HF in work.

In 616, he never had to worry about his arm getting cut off. But all the flesh from it was burned away and it healed in moments...

X-23 regenerated an arm along with claws not so long ago in Necrosha. Nemesis removed the bone claws, so he could implant the adamantium ones again.


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reread my post stiltman I am not referring to anything being cannon in my opinion other than the x titles not the wolverine titles again it would go back to the ol dollar and initiation of abilities that go beyond the original or cannon scope of the character.
As for stopping any post you have your opinion based on what you read and I have mine. We are in disagreement because of the seriously overwritten abilities at times in these books and again from the beginning he had enhanced healing not regeneration as per limb regeneration, hyper olfactory acute hearing and an indestructible skeleton. Go back to the Uncanny x-men from 1 to 250 and show me something different.

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Ultimate Wolverine is not the same person as 616, he's an alternate version of Wolverine, he's taller,is more of a dick and does not have a linked skeleton, why Hulk was able to tear him in two.

As another example.


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Originally posted by Mr.Biscuits
Yes Wolverine can die.Snap his neck and he's dead,drown him etc.


Cracking his neck will not kill him.


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Cracking his neck will not kill him.


True, it won't.

But it killed him in an alternate universe - that's another example why we don't use non-canon evidence wink


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616 is bs, its nonsense it was created in july 83 by marvel uk, it created alternate earths yeah that worked out well for dc. Its stupid to tell me that its cannon when the material I have been stating as true cannon predates the idiocy of alternate earths. example, 1985 giant sized x men and the x men books leading up to clairemont up to his retirement. THAT IS CANNON. not that idiotic 616 nonsense you people keep spouting off about.
You can spout all you want about 616 but marvel is reeling to exercise itself of that idiocy at this point.

So tell me i know nothing of the x men I will put my collection and resource material up against any of yours, and if you want to choose obscure events in other books as relating to wolverine canon then your deluding yourself. The uncanny x men is his source material.

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