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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Razielim
Anakin... was a bit lacking in the common sense department. He was pretty damn brilliant at everything else (Science, mechanics, tactics, SKILL, talent). Still, his RotS incarnation was a vast improvement from his AotC incarnation.
He was still a wife-beater...
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May 31st, 2006 08:38 PM
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Overrated: Dooku,Maul,Revan,Boba Fett,Marka Ragnos,Nihilus
Underrated:Luke Skywalker,Darth Vader,Obi-Wan Kenobi.
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May 31st, 2006 08:44 PM
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Most underrated in the movies is Qui-Gon Jinn, for only getting some brief mentions in second movie, and pretty much none in the third (unless you include the novel's dialogue between Yoda and him).
Most underrated in the EU is Darsha Assant, the padawan from the novel Darth Maul : Shadow Hunter. She almost fought Darth Maul to a standstill, and in the end sacrificed her life. It was good to see her in "Cloak of Deception" and in one of the junior novels, but IMO she deserves to be mentioned more.
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May 31st, 2006 09:08 PM
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It's not so much that she is underrated. She is generally just unknown.
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May 31st, 2006 09:11 PM
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Whoever says Luke is underrated has been gone for a long, LONG time.
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Jun 1st, 2006 01:57 AM
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Marka Ragnos, dark lord of the oevr rated. I swear that man gets WAYYYYYY to much blowjobs from the KMC members on this forum...
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I think it's 'cause most of us like to have a supreme deity we know out-does all others. Just like religion.
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Jun 1st, 2006 02:53 AM
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Overrated:
-RAGNOS!?!
-NIHILUS!?!
-All the ancient sith pretty much
-Dooku
Underrated:
-OT Vader
-OT Luke
-All forms of Sidious
-Spock
Jun 1st, 2006 03:11 AM
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Overrated: Luke, Palpatine, Malak, Revan, Dooku, Yoda, Grievous
Underrated: Obi-Wan, Maul, Darth Vader, Kit Fisto, Plo Koon, Most of the Jedi Council members, The Gungan Grand Army,
Perfectly Rated: Mace, Jango & Boba, Stormtroopers
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Why the f**k is everyone saying that Dooku is overrated?? In almost every thread people are dissing him. He is far more likely to be in the underrated list.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by True Fox
lol that is so weird. So far the only mention I have seen on this forum of Revan is that he canonically did nothing impressive because he is a video game character. Oh apart from Nactuous.
He has a cool mask. quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rampant ox
Why the f**k is everyone saying that Dooku is overrated?? In almost every thread people are dissing him. He is far more likely to be in the underrated list.
Dooku is good, he is the master of Anakin's master's master. But he didn't even notice the brat slicing off both of his hands and he apperantly had a lack of insight that he was so terribly screwed over.
Dooku should have been a lot better for someone his age and experience.
Just accept it, he is a soft sith.
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Jun 1st, 2006 05:58 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Rampant ox
Why the f**k is everyone saying that Dooku is overrated?? In almost every thread people are dissing him. He is far more likely to be in the underrated list.
Yes, Dooku IS a bad-ass who is capable of whooping some serious ass--BUT he is not the god that folks like yourself make him out to be.
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Jun 1st, 2006 07:40 PM
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Dooku is perfectly rated. Not overrated, nor underrated.
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Jun 5th, 2006 04:24 PM
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Yeah, we rated him good. He's a pussy.
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Jun 5th, 2006 06:20 PM
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Maul either overrated or underrated, depends if they like him or not.
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Jun 5th, 2006 07:21 PM
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Overrated: All ancient Sith, especially Ragnos (the king of overrated), Revan, Dooku. Luke (in the OT, not in EU)
Underrated: Anakin Skywalker (he's farrrrrrrr better then what people around here give him credit for)
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Jun 5th, 2006 08:25 PM
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Agreed. I see Anakin on par with Dooku (proven), Mace and probably even Sidious in saber combat.
Jun 5th, 2006 09:28 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Razielim
Agreed. I see Anakin on par with Dooku (proven), Mace and probably even Sidious in saber combat.
But...he got pwned by Obi wan?
Jun 5th, 2006 09:37 PM
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This is what I posted earlier.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Razielim
First of all, A>B>C comparisons don't always work. The upper tier of the PT doesn't work this way (Sidious > Dooku > Mace > Sidious, as another example).
Now let's look at Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight.
- George Lucas says that they are not equal. He says, in the RotS commentary, that Darth Vader was superior to Kenobi in both lightsaber dueling and force power.
- Anakin wasn't as good as Kenobi in the emotions department. Kenobi had far greater control over his emotions.
Add this to the fact that Anakin was going through intense emotional anguish with Padme.
- Kenobi used a saber form (Soresu) who's purpose was to draw out fights. He basically stretched out the fight until Anakin did something stupid to mess up. Not only that, but his saber guard was never penetrated after becoming THE Soresu master.
- Alot of the fight involved lava skateboarding, climbing and balance-fighting. Kenobi was usually the first to run to these things
- Anakin comes close to wrecking him a few times. A hard kick to the chest comes to mind as well.
- Kenobi was his teacher and best friend. He knows him inside out.
- Anakin was winning the fight. At the line "This is the end for you my master" Kenobi is breathing hard and Anakin looks fine.
- Even with all these advantages for Kenobi, Anakin IIRC, according to GL, was going to win the fight if it continued.
Just my opinion though. It could very well be Anakin > Dooku > Kenobi > Anakin.
Jun 5th, 2006 09:39 PM
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Razielim is correct.
In terms of lightsaber combat, Anakin - even as of ROTS - is on par with the four most powerful in the galaxy: Yoda, Sidious, Mace, and Dooku.
One could argue that he's better than Dooku, as they fought and he won. One could speculate that he's better than Mace and Sidious. As for Yoda, Yoda's not really a flat-out spectacular swordsmen, but his control and mastery of the Force allows him to be overwhelming in a fight.
The only reason I don't put him up with Yoda or Sidious is simply they are more powerful Force-users.
Jun 5th, 2006 09:44 PM
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