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Soljer
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No, I have no 'representation of what I THINK Ryu could do," how could I? As I said, I have nothing to go on except for what has been stated in this thread. I have only ever played the games - I just think Riceroost represented Ryu better than you argued against him.


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of course you do, you're willing to give the character the benefit of the doubt at every turn.. again in which game does ryu display a 20 foot wide blast? where was the mileage stated that he ran with the boulder? where has it been stated how much the boulder weighed? where is it proven that ryu has an inexhaustable power supply (in spite of needing breaks to rest confused ) instead of a natural ability for channeling power...? why would this fight start far enough away for ryu to have and maintain a good distance from logan the entire time in spite of other faster/etc characters failing to do that? Why is ryu's blast going to be more effective than manderins, clyclops or brick punches?

see this is why I didn't want to debate against game-ryu in the first place, there are far too many ambiguities concerning the SF game series IMO to make any debates with these characters an easy one to come to... (for example, I remember tons of kids telling me that akuma destroyed/sunk an island with one hit.. how do you sink an island? I have no idea... but anyways.. I play the game and come to find out ryu says the island has dissapeared.. nothing about it sinking.. and if it did sink how come ryu inexplicably out of the cave and in water when it did? did it sink? was it vaporized? or did it just dissapear as ryu described? it too ambiguous to really say.
with comics the feats are right there in front of your face.. with the SF game series you have to get a feat, hope it's canon and then hope it doesn't get reconted as soon as the next sequal/prequal comes out....

This is why i can easily admit that logan would get trashed by that comic ryu ricerroost was talking about, but I can't say the same about the game version.. too many things that need to be proven, simply can't be... so we're left to giving ryu the benefit of the doubt.. I simply can not and will not do that.. it's as good as copping out...


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Yes he is..

He hasn't been at 15 for a really long time.

He went up in strength during Paul Jenkins run on Peter Parker: Spider-Man.

no he not I have all of spiderman issue for the last 3 years and not he at best is 20 and that has not even been stated yet.

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Wait, this is a comic book forum, right? I thought we were discussing Comic Ryu versus Comic Wolverine. If you want to go into GAME'S wolverine, then I Saw him put down by....you know...EVERYONE in the game. So, lets go with the comic's version :-P


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In the new street fight comic's RYU and KEN would get there ases handed to them by CHARLIE

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Erm, aren't those the American, non-canonical comics? Rather than the real Japanese ones? Hmmm...:-/


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that's the thing.. I was bringing up comics and riceroost was going semi-strictly by games (sans the alpha movie)... then he chastised me for bringing up the comics so now I'm going by games..

from the sounds of it, the japanese dojinshi and the hong kong comics win..

any of the comics that have been translated to US probably lose

and anime is fair game.

the game version is totally ambiguous though...


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Erm, aren't those the American, non-canonical comics? Rather than the real Japanese ones? Hmmm...:-/


the japenese one's aren't canon either.. hell the first street fighter comic that was japanese and translated by viz ( i think) would still lose.. I'm just saying it doesn't so much matter where the story is written it matter's how it's written.


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Erm, aren't those the American, non-canonical comics? Rather than the real Japanese ones? Hmmm...:-/

same art and such if im not mistaken and it was early days KEN and RYU. Back in the day guile was better then both of them and Charlie would school Guile

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same art and such if im not mistaken and it was early days KEN and RYU. Back in the day guile was better then both of them and Charlie would school Guile


yeah good point.. the company that's producing the art for the new games is the same one that's doing the plot for the comic...


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yeah good point.. the company that's producing the art for the new games is the same one that's doing the plot for the comic...

are u being sarcastic lol




also i was referring to the comic book's. i said the english comic books are the same art and such has jap. ones

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no I was being dead serious.. udon does the art for the games as wellas the comic now. you were right.. that's all.. confused


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There is no way Spiderman is a class 30 character. At most the upgrade's he has received would put him at 20. But it doesn't matter, because as far as comparing Ryu's strength to Spidermans? Spiderman is clearly outclassed.


What the f**k?

Why, because you don't want to be wrong?

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no I was being dead serious.. udon does the art for the games as wellas the comic now. you were right.. that's all.. confused

lol oh I was not sure hahahahaha.

thats wierd that I was right when i ment some thing totaly different hahahaha

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What the f**k?

Why, because you don't want to be wrong?


What are you talking about? I have seen NOTHING to imply that Spiderman is anywhere over class 20. I've seen the respect thread, I've read the comics. Show me something.

And even if Spiderman WAS as much as class 30 (he is no where near), that still doesn't compare to Ryu.


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according to an ambiguous feat?


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What are you talking about? I have seen NOTHING to imply that Spiderman is anywhere over class 20. I've seen the respect thread, I've read the comics. Show me something.



I'd also like to add he did this feat right after fighting mindless ones, Vulter, Sandman, Elektro, Hulk and Lizard.

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I'd also like to add he did this feat right after fighting mindless ones, Vulter, Sandman, Elektro, Hulk and Lizard.

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Was that a dream? Where did the object go? Why is Spidey floating? Those scans are a bit confusing.confused


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Was that a dream? Where did the object go? Why is Spidey floating? Those scans are a bit confusing.confused


That was was all steel too and he started from laying down.
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Nah, it wasn't a dream.

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He went to help Dr. Strange when the mindless ones were invading New York.

Something happend(I forget what) that put Pete back in to the begining of his timeline and for some reason that they didn't explain he had to fight nearly evryone hes ever fought, on right after the other.

After he fought all the ones I mentioned and lifted that thing, he then hand to fight all these characters too.

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Then go back to fighting Mindless Ones.

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...Errr...What?


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