What enemy would give him problems, then? Science is not the only thing that Reed can do, he is a master of other things too...that includes psychology.
And I'd like to see Batman take his enemies without equipment...
What would Batman do if all their equimpment would be destroyed and he actually would have to made a teleporter himself out of alien technology he has never encountered before? Or when he would need to face Terminus or some other interdimensional god in battle and find a way to defeat them in half a minute?
Pray?
It's Batman who is WAY above his level here.
Not half of Batman's villains are insane enough for Reed not to understand them, and even those who are can be understood by him. Reed has predicted what aliens or magical creatures that aren't even from this world would do, insane minds won't be a problem, since understanding the workings of mind is one of his fields too. And can't blend in? He can mimic his appearence and face to disguise as another person, creature or inanimate object if he wishes so. Reed has defeated enemies without his teammates. And he is 99% of the time the guy who finds a way to defeat them also. Reed does not need his team...they can't work really without Reed.
And Batman's villains would not just figure out that he is weak to those things...I doubt that an universal genius would just run at a guy named "Mr.Freeze".
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Well I can’t remember many of Bat’s enemies but some that I do that would physically give him a challenge without his toys are Bane, Clayface and Killer Croc. Most of the others he could easily out think or physically beat. My point is that he, giving time could find a way to beat them all but to do this and avoid Batman I can’t see him doing. It wouldn’t be long before Bats figured out his method and caught him.
As for Bats against Reed’s foes without his gadgets I think many of them would hand his a** to him like Super Skrull, Doom, Titania, Annihilus and not to mention Galactus.
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I have never said that Bat’s foes could hurt Reed, some may find a way but I really don’t think so. As the thread started was that Reed would have to beat all of Batman’s foes with out using any weapons or tech and avoid Batman in the process, I just can’t see that happening with that criteria.
Not half of Batman's villains are insane enough for Reed not to understand them
Which one isn't insane?
, and even those who are can be understood by him. Reed has predicted what aliens or magical creatures that aren't even from this world would do, insane minds won't be a problem, since understanding the workings of mind is one of his fields too.
Please, Reed can't even grasp the concept of magic. Sure, he could logically predict what aliens or magical creatures might do, but none of them were insane. Batman's villains are more illogical than anything Reed's dealt with.
He can mimic his appearence and face to disguise as another person, creature or inanimate object if he wishes so
His costume is freakin blue. Blue vase. Blue floor. Blue creature. Yeah, I'm sure he'd make a great detective.
Reed has defeated enemies without his teammates. And he is 99% of the time the guy who finds a way to defeat them also. Reed does not need his team...they can't work really without Reed.
He can think of ways to defeat them, but 99% of the time he requires a team.
And Batman's villains would not just figure out that he is weak to those things...I doubt that an universal genius would just run at a guy named "Mr.Freeze".
I said insane enough. Most of them are just gangsters or crooks with extra murderous tendencies and something special which makes them dangerous.
Let's see. It took roughly thirty minutes for Dr.Strange to teach Reed to use magical objects and incantations to get him in level where he could go toe to toe with Doctor Doom in magical combat...
*Sigh*
Unstable molecules. They change their form.
And you think Batman could defeat cosmic being without their help?
Reed requires his team because he competes in different ballpark then Batman.
Because they don't know the first thing about him...
But I just want to say that you are undermining Batman's intelligence. Just because he doesn't apply himself to science as well as Reeds doesn't mean Reed is smarter than him. Batman has a much larger range of masteries.
- Greatest Detective in DC
- Lock Picking Skills
- Trained In Over Hundreds Of Martial Arts
- Expert In Criminology, Sociology, Biology, Chemistry, Astrophysics, Mechanics, Law, Psychology, Anatomy and Physiology, Biotechnology, Genetic Engineering, Social and Technical Sciences etc.
- Master Artistry
- Can speak English, Mandarin, Japanese, Middle Eastern Languages, Russian, German, Australian, Spanish, French all fluently
- Load of money and business pioneering skills
- Proven to be the smartest human alive in DC (DC One Million arc)
- Array Of Gadgets to compensate for no cheap superhuman powers
It can't be proven that Reeds is smarter than Bruce, only that what he says happens to be more verbose, pretentious, and vague in that it uses scientific doubletalk. So from now on I think if anybody says that Reed is infinitely smarter than Bruce, I'll just start debating with them.
I can speak Australian too... i.e. English. You probably mean the language of Australian Aborigines in which case there are like a hundred dialects...
How are lockpicking and martial arts skills and marksmenship measures of intelligence...
Expert criminologist yes... but (I think I've asked this before) really.. how often does he consistently exhibit expertise in genetic engineering or the legal framework or complex human anatomy.
It's arguable whether giving a character plot device gadgets or giving a character superpowers is more 'cheap'.
Reed's married to the incredibly hot and incredibly powerful Invisible Woman while Bruce spends most of his time with boy wonder...
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Comparing Reed’s and Batman’s intelligence is like comparing book smarts vs. street smarts. Batman has much more practical experience then Reed but doesn’t have to deal with the cosmic battles that Reed has to deal with. So when it comes to evading and capture Reed is way out classed in that aspect. Now if big G shows up Batman will piss his pants and Reed will run to the lab and grab his gadgets.
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Yes I do understand what intelligence means. 1 a : the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations b : the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests). Street smarts and book smarts are two different applications of the same thing. Each uses their intelligence in different ways.
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