Definitely compacts, reverting back to the shape/size that he came out of some designer's ass on that day where shitty designs were declared mandatory for this character.
Mind you, I'm amazed he could do anything, so Jar-Jar-Binks-like was his character.
I wish Asimov had invented another law of robotics:
'Slapstick and silly voices don't go well with trying to come across as killer robots.'
Yet somehow I can take G1 Starscream's voice way more seriously than movie Frenzy's voice, movements, actions, and design put together.
Weird.
I like the philosophy of size of TF dictating how bassy the voice is,
but that can only be taken so far..... For example, if size dictates voice, then what happens when you get a bunch of TFs of the same size....? Identical tones...?
Individualism is not the enemy, and if it wasn't for dialogue, I couldn't guarantee that I could tell several of the voices from each other.
Besides, If Starscream turned up on Earth tommorrow on a rampage...? Im probably wouldnt be the one stepping forward to take the piss out of his voice. lol
Movie Frenzy...? I'd be less shy about mouthing off to.
As long as you had an electric turkey carving knife or could hang long enough for Frenzy to 'comedically' cut his own head off, you'd be set.
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I'd argue that Prime was the only one characterised well in that movie.
(And then they totally sell out his visual character and have to ruin the stoicism with "My bad" etc and barely being able to command Ironhide and such, showing his outright and un-Prime-like impatience several times)
So thinking about it, even Prime's portrayal could be seen as dodgy.
Bumblebee: Was portrayed as a double-standard-having assed mute who is the first to cry whilst being tortured, yet now mysteriously, despite all we have ever known about the character, pisses on Humans to pry info from them and as he is now a muscle car, is no longer the character of smallest, yet plucky etc. Just comes across like a muscle car piss-torturer.
Ironhide: Always respected Prime, if nothing else and would always follow his command loyally.... Not so here. His constant desire to waste smaller creatures (Dogs, Parents, Rodents etc) goes against the protective-of-life security cheif we grew up knowing.
Jazz: Like already said, A mercifully short amount of screentime due to the shallow-as-puddle stereotype portrayal (The smallest of the Autobots now...? WTFlip?...!!!!!).
Ratchet: If Jazz had enough time to learn all that about earth culture including the entire Run DMC schtick, then could Ratchet have not learned a little about Humans...? He doesn't seem to be aware of a basic thing like embarassment, so that speaks for not only his research, but what must be a poo bedside manner. A bit crap too if it took him that long to fix Bumbleebee's vox processor.. Credit to him though that he didn't mend this incarnation of Jazz, though...
Megatron: They substituted any generic B-movie "Rarrrrrrrrr" monster -maybe from Ultraman of something - for the cold, highly intelligent, complex, slightly insane, ruthless (And usually able to beat a small human in fight) leader of the Decepticons that we all knew....
Unbelieveable and unforgiveable that we can go from the old eloquence and articulation to "Raaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!!!!".
As the song says.... "I can smelllllllllll youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu, Bayyyyyyyy......!"
Starscream: Okay they got the cowardly traitor bit down.
(In the one or two sentences he had )
Frenzy: Goes from being a a weak but vicious bully that used sound to shred opponents, to being Jar-Jar Binks with no hestitation.
Its 'Frenzy' here that almost single handedly makes the Decepticons a laughing stock IMHO.
Barricade: B-Movie monster who.....who.....well. I have no idea, as he was in it for five minutes before disappearing mysteriously.
Devastator: Nooooooooooooo!!!!!! Waste of a remembered/respected name and character (characters if you see him as 6 constructicons) for the sake of a not-at-all characterised 'Brawl' that Bay didn't even care to get the name right for...
Bonecrusher: Portrayed with next to no character except for chucking some cars about having a go unsuccessfully at Prime.
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