Partially but it has more to do with the fact that Surfer has more ways to beat Superman than Thanos. Thanos is basically brute force while Norrin is so much more.
Both stomp him imo. Thanos for his unreal damage resistance and strength and energy projection.
Surfer for all three except his strength. And his sheer variety of powers. And speed, and mobility. Funny, against Hulk, this ensures Superman the win, but when the situation is reversed, denial abounds.
I'd put Surfer in the high class 100 strengthwise, but not the premiers like Superman, Hulk(enraged)BA and CM, BRB. Thor imo, is a lil weaker than the five i named, but his hammer and innate magic closes and maybe even surpasses the gap.
Surfer can possibly amp himself way beyond all named above, but he doesn't need to honestly.
Though imo, Starlin Thanos is akin to Loeb Superman. Highly efficient and powerful, while everybody else seems to suffer.
Surfer's more about finesse.
Thanos is Brute force but he surely is more then that his TP is very powerful and he's an Eternal those facts about him get overlooked alot.
And I don't get how you me thinking Superman can beat Thanos and Surfer makes me a DC fanboy. You and the other Thanos and Surfer support just can't stand it, but you need to get over it, I still say he can beat them, that's not going to change until I see something that makes me think Surfer or Thanos whould beat him and is way above him in power. And btw, I say Supes whould take the majority in a battle against them (one on one of course, so don't go try to mix up my words saying I think he can beat both of them at the same time, since you can't stand for anyone to think Supes can beat them), not Supes takes this ancsd10 rwkfr milliontnwoe timesfneuernw outeowwnmillion eeob against them like some fanboy.
Again, chill with the angry attacks.
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I would agree that Hulk Vs Superman is analogous to Superman Vs Silver Surfer. That's a good comparison. Physically I think Superman and Hulk set the bar for top tier strength but Radd can slug it out with anyone.
Starlin Thanos is annoying but he does that with all those type of villains. Starlin's Darkseid is a beast which is why I'm glad he's back at DC.
Post Crisis Daxamites are supposed to be slightly superior to your average Kryptonians. In any case, a probe killing 100,000 of them and then getting one shotted by Supes is certainly questionable writing. Not enough mental blocks in the universe to make up for that one.
[Dvamp] you see Superman is Super and he can speedblitz and survive 100000000 nukes at once.Superman also has heat vision Surfer can't fly without his board so he loses.....[Dvamp]
No need to do all that. Can't you just briefly post how Superman wins, and then i'll leave it at that?? Finding and resurrecting an old thread is too much work this early in the evening.
Vally, i think i may have. IIRC, one time he said that if he needs Superman to move a galaxy, then he will have him move a galaxy. He did the same for Majestros. If wrong, please elaborate Validus.
I just read the same interview. And while he may chose to write like that, it kinda disrespects the history of other characters. At least it does so imo. So even while sundipped superman maybe more powerful, if Thor can absorb all that extra power, and has done so to others many times, but when facing Casy Superman and doesn't, does that means he lost while fighting at his best?? Not at all.
Same thing with Surfer. Yeah, his chances of failure are greatest when he fights below his optimum.
So thats the gist right there.
Everybody else fights below par, while Superman operates above it........Any people wonder why the guy has haters/detractors?? Jobbing goes hand in hand with him and all popular heroes.
Considering what Imperiex represented, had sundipped Superman stopped him, i wouldn't have been surprised. Disappointed, yes at the predictability, but not surprised.
Vally, did you do all this to make me think Vamp is Joe Casey?
You think Whirly or Dvampire was bad?? Meet Jelly. He's articulate, but totally biased. Not totally unfounded though, due to the things DC has been printing for the past few years. Mr. I can do anything man has replaced Superman.
His defense of Superman is contradicting, but almost admirable. He really goes to bat for the guy"
Ah THAT Jelly. I lurk at SHC, i know who the chap is.
Wirly compared with that guy is nothing bad. I actually see him with a good sense of humor overall. Jelly is just overall bad.
Altho Drizz its far worse than him, i can tell you that.
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No, just that when you have writers like that who do believe Superman can beat all comers it's not hard to see why someone would have that opinion. OWAW basically says Superman is unbeatable with the way he was outperforming his peers. Of course, they were all running around like idiots but still.
A. Galactus clone - Anyone who doesn't notice that is retarded , if i was in Stan Lee's shoes Dc would be looking at a hefty lawsuit.
B. Inconsistencies - Ahh , so apparently if a women dons cheap looking gold armour then she can suddenly take on beings which slap around God-Man (He is no longer Super , Super would infer limits , such as mega being higher) , and said beings seem to drastically drop in durability and overall power as the mini continues. I see , the suck must bleed into the comics the longer the farce is held out.
C. Doomsday - Yes , let's bring back a walking plot device only to have him killed.....then brought back again !
D. Brainiac - Send yourself to the beginning of time , great idea dumbass . Just forget that the source controls all the power released then. So even IF you somehow survived the ****-only-knows how big explosion then you have to somehow filter the power form an entity so high on the food chain it makes you look like a dust mite in comparison .