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Rorschach
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There's more to destroying something that just it's size. Endless Mike posted how much more energy it takes to destroy the Earth than the Moon.

Maybe he'll post it again when he gets back.

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Sep 20th, 2007 06:26 AM

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Ok, here's some bullshit I came up with. Happy Dance

Superman has broken through Kyle's constructs.

Kyle has contained a Sun going Supernova.

Superman's punch > Supernova.

eek!

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Sep 20th, 2007 06:29 AM

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Batman batkicked the Spectre, Superman > Batkick, therefore

Superman>Batkick>>>>>>>>Spectre

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I still like my "Akira Toriyama wrote a manga where Superman rips SSj16 Goku's head off and shits down his neck. It was graphic and nauseating, but its concrete proof that Goku at the end of DBZ stand no chance.

Scans? It's up to you to prove me wrong, I have the scans, but I'm not going to show it to people who obviously haven't read it."

It's like what they've been throwing at us.

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Well didnt Vegeta breath in space and destroy a planet effortlessly with the tip of his fingers? On another note, supes wasnt being weaken by dianas punches....he was more concerned with the way she was behaving. The second he gave a rats ass about it, he put her down easily.

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Well didnt Vegeta breath in space and destroy a planet effortlessly with the tip of his fingers?

That was filler. wink

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Sep 20th, 2007 06:33 AM

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How funny would that be if that scan really existed and was posted. big grin

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So Gplex.

Do you think that Goku could defeat Galactus? Living Tribunal? Spectre? Wilder of the Infinity Gauntlet, Zero Hour Parallax, and Anit-Monitor?

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So Gplex.

Do you think that Goku could defeat Galactus? Living Tribunal? Spectre? Wilder of the Infinity Gauntlet, Zero Hour Parallax, and Anit-Monitor?

I think he left

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Originally posted by superkronick92
How funny would that be if that scan really existed and was posted.

http://comics212.net/wp-content/upl...superman300.jpg
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I got another one. laughing

Superman survived an attack from Zero Hour Parallax, who destroyed the Universe.

Superman> Universe destroying attack.

eek!

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Sep 20th, 2007 06:40 AM

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It's funny cuz it's true

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Sep 20th, 2007 06:41 AM

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Well why wouldnt someone believe Cell couldnt destroy a solar system...he said so himself so ins that enough proof. The writer uses the characters as a means of narration sometimes, so in this situation Cell is able to destroy a solar system otherwise why was it written.

Because Cell is known to boast and overestimate his own power. He thought he was perfect and undefeatable. Also the crater was only a few hundred meters across.

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Well, Endless Mike says no one in the DBZ universe can destroy more than a planet at once. King Cold was able to destroy Earth in a single blast, how much do you think Goku at SSJ3 could destroy? Ofcrouse more than a Solar System.

Do you even know the energies required? That's a completely unsubstantiated statement unless you can quantify exactly how much stronger he's gotten. The difference between a planet and a solar system is huge, and there's the inverse - square law to consider.

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Oh, and about Superman's speed:

He is able to BUILD UP his flight speed to exceed the speed of light. He doesn't do this in either short distances of is able to fight at such speeds (yet still very fast).

Fighting Wonder Woman in Sacrifice. Fighting Darkseid to the sun. Fighting Superboy Prime through Rao.

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Goku however doesn't have this problem. He can fly and fight in distances in speeds greater than light,with no problem of having to build up these speeds.

No one in DBZ is even 1% lightspeed.

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Also, I found a scan that proves saiyans can breath in space.

Go to Google Images and type down "Bardock Manga". Click and read the first image.

NOTE: Bardock is Goku's father.

That just shows a picture of him. How does that prove he can breathe in space? Goku stated multiple times (and many other characters did as well) that he can't breathe in space. It was a major plot point in the Frieza saga.

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The reason why Goku is faster
Goku as a kid could dodge bullets. (picture below) So at this point he could move faster then 340m/s. This is when he met Krillin. At the first tournament Krillin could follow Goku. At the second Krillin couldn't see him move so he had to be at lease 60x faster. Now tein was at one of those one and he could follow Goku movements. At the next tournament Goku move so fast that tein couldn't see him. So again he must be around 60x faster. 340x60x60 = 1224000m/s which is around 0.4% of the speed of light. Now Goku had a powerlevel of 416. When he got back from training he had a powerlevel of 5000. So hes 12x faster. Next he gets to 180000. making him 36x faster on that. So goku when he gets to namic is 1.72x the speed of light. I would like to point out that he could easily do 20x Kaioken when he got to namic. So if goku could turn ssj3 when he got to namic he would be 50x50x50 = 125000x faster then light. You can just Imagine how fast he would be when he is fighting frezia or even cell. People have also said that Superman heat vision would hurt Goku... But his heat vision is just a laser.. Goku can move faster then light so how can it hit him?
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9641/05106ha6.gif

This is the third time you've posted this and I already tore it to shreds the first time. You're using broken record tactics, that's a fallacy.

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Sep 20th, 2007 09:27 AM

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Here he is jumping from side to side so fast he makes himself invisable... http://img483.imageshack.us/img483/1815/110609ca2.gif Now 60 is around the speed the human eye can not follow... I know that if somehting was to vibrate at 60 hz we could still see it but I use 60 because it was around the miniumn number I could find.

I calced that at 120 meters per second (2 meter distance over 1/60th of a second).

Not even half sound speed.

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http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/...an/pic011-1.jpg

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Endless Mike
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flying and fighting is 2 diffrent things. Goku took care of the red ribben army when he was all but a child.. they had the greatest fighters plus advance robotics.

Yet he was still hurt by their bullets, and it took him an entire arc. Superman did it while invisible in seconds, a long time ago when he was way weaker.

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/...bullets2nd5.gif
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http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/...bullets4ek7.gif
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Sep 20th, 2007 09:34 AM

Endless Mike
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There's more to it that just size. I'll let Mike explain why you need more than 4 times the energy to destroy the moon in order to destroy the Earth.

Actually it's almost 2000 times.

GBE formula.

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Endless Mike
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Superman can output more energy than the core of a star.

"There may be no limit to amount of energy he can discharge."

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Now let's take that quote at face value like the solar system quote.

Superman can fire infinite energy.

Infinity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Solar system destroying and all of your bullshit calcs.

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