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How many times do I have to say this, Super Saiyan 2 goku moving that mountain was filler, as in it didn't happen (not that any of DBZ actuly happend but I digress).

Also the 40 ton thing, Goku clearly said "This is easy" so we have no idea how much Goku could lift after he became a super saiyan, let alone a super saiyan 3.

And what are you talking about the blowing up of planets I can't understand what you just said.

Yeah lol, Goku said turning super saiyan just makes it to easy.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:01 PM

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Can people actuly give evidence that DBZ characters move slower than the speed of light? Besides the "well seeing as the fight isn't over in a second its clearly not the speed of light" in that case Superman isn't that fast either.

And the fact that DBZ characters can't survive a planet being destroyed isn't the fact that they can't take the explosion its because they can't survive in space, yes I know superman can, but thats no reason to take away DBZ characters durability. After all Freeza was very confident he could survive the destruction of Namek, and if he could, the stronger Goku could aswell, he just wouldnt have an atmosphere to sustain him.

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once again I would like to point out how it is impossible to convince a superman fanboy that superman loses any fight they just won't believe any of the feats of the other guy. Piccolo said that Raditz was faster then light. Also there is no signs what so ever that Raditz moved before the attack was used. Also where does it say in the comic that war world was using its boosters at full strength to resist him? Besides the Frizza case that was at the end of the Frizza saga was their really any other time someone attacked the core to destroy a planet? That was only used so that the fight could last longer. Face it people DBZ and DBGT characters are just overwhelmingly powerfull to the point where it is just ridicules. I like superman more but he can't win this no matter how many people want him too he's just out of his league.

Piccolo didnt say he was faster than light, Piccolo asked himself "is he faster than light?"
Which is not the case Raditz is just way faster than his opponents thats how you dodge people. Are you mental? Dont you watch Kung Fu movies? If you are faster than your opponent they cant hit you.
Let me even take this a step further, remember when Goku was racing to get to earth from King Ki's? Goku was at that time faster an stronger than raditz but it still took him MANY hours to fly the 10,000 miles back to earth. The speed of light is 187000 miles per second
but your saying raditz is faster than light?
You have to be insane to think superman doesnt win this. He is immune to all their attacks he's faster an stronger an has 1000 times more stamina. If you dont think he wins you're on crack. An supes HOLDS back no less

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Piccolo didnt say he was faster than light, Piccolo asked himself "is he faster than light?"
Which is not the case Raditz is just way faster than his opponents thats how you dodge people. Are you mental? Dont you watch Kung Fu movies? If you are faster than your opponent they cant hit you.
Let me even take this a step further, remember when Goku was racing to get to earth from King Ki's? Goku was at that time faster an stronger than raditz but it still took him MANY hours to fly the 10,000 miles back to earth. The speed of light is 187000 miles per second
but your saying raditz is faster than light?
You have to be insane to think superman doesnt win this. He is immune to all their attacks he's faster an stronger an has 1000 times more stamina. If you dont think he wins you're on crack. An supes HOLDS back no less

How do you know how far it was, I can't remeber it being stated.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:07 PM

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Well Goku gets beaten to an inch of his life because the people he is facing are at his level...Supes holds back whiole fighting a guy in a robot suit, Monkies, Lex luthor(Why should supes go all out) Supes goe sall out when he fights people his power and gets beaten to an inch too..... Oh and Goku beat Nappa like he was a piece of garbage,The ginyu force didn't even touch him once(Outside of Captain Ginyu). < He doesn'tr always get beaten to an inch...if you even manage to touch goku.

Don't forget Android 19 he only lost that because of the heart virus, but he was still kicking its ass before the virus weakend him to the point where he could barely stand.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:09 PM

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What you comparing ? Flying speed, Combat speed, hand movement speed..Oh and in the manga it didn't take goku 80 eps becaus eit was a manga like if they put superman in an animated show(The real supes, not the weak powered down one)

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How do you know how far it was, I can't remeber it being stated.

Yes it was never stated.

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Can people actuly give evidence that DBZ characters move slower than the speed of light? Besides the "well seeing as the fight isn't over in a second its clearly not the speed of light" in that case Superman isn't that fast either.

And the fact that DBZ characters can't survive a planet being destroyed isn't the fact that they can't take the explosion its because they can't survive in space, yes I know superman can, but thats no reason to take away DBZ characters durability. After all Freeza was very confident he could survive the destruction of Namek, and if he could, the stronger Goku could aswell, he just wouldnt have an atmosphere to sustain him.

Let's see, when ever any of the DBZ characters are trying to get somewhere fast they dont get there immediately. Like trunks looking for the dragon radar when Goku 1st goes SSJ3. That wasnt the speed of light an he was a super sayain an obviously in a hurry an moving as fast as he could. An since the earth is about 24,000 mi around, if you were moving at the speed of light you would get anywhere in the world instantly.
Superman is that fast, have you not seen the movie? He can go back in time he is so fast. No DBZ character could hope to touch him let alone beat him.

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How do you know how far it was, I can't remeber it being stated.

One of the undead guys he talked to told him snake way was 10,000 miles. An only king yemma had survived the trip or something.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:14 PM

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Well Goku gets beaten to an inch of his life because the people he is facing are at his level...Supes holds back whiole fighting a guy in a robot suit, Monkies, Lex luthor(Why should supes go all out) Supes goe sall out when he fights people his power and gets beaten to an inch too..... Oh and Goku beat Nappa like he was a piece of garbage,The ginyu force didn't even touch him once(Outside of Captain Ginyu). < He doesn'tr always get beaten to an inch...if you even manage to touch goku.

When Goku was fighting Nappa he was holding back. When he was fighting the Ginyu force he was also holding back.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:15 PM

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Let's see, when ever any of the DBZ characters are trying to get somewhere fast they dont get there immediately. Like trunks looking for the dragon radar when Goku 1st goes SSJ3. That wasnt the speed of light an he was a super sayain an obviously in a hurry an moving as fast as he could.
Superman is that fast, have you not seen the movie? He can go back in time he is so fast. No DBZ character could hope to touch him let alone beat him.

Ah now that's a good example, I never thought of that...

Jul 16th, 2006 08:16 PM

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One of the undead guys he talked to told him snake way was 10,000 miles. An only king yemma had survived the trip or something.

I can't remeber that, I'lll have to check it later.

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One of the undead guys he talked to told him snake way was 10,000 miles. An only king yemma had survived the trip or something.

Yes but that is only snake way Goku had a longer journey to go than that.

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Let's see, when ever any of the DBZ characters are trying to get somewhere fast they dont get there immediately. Like trunks looking for the dragon radar when Goku 1st goes SSJ3. That wasnt the speed of light an he was a super sayain an obviously in a hurry an moving as fast as he could.
Superman is that fast, have you not seen the movie? He can go back in time he is so fast. No DBZ character could hope to touch him let alone beat him.

Good idea, let me "look for a dragon ball and go super sonic speed so I fly rigfht pass it...Awesome" eek!

Bah, little kids gotenks ran around the world a couple times.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:19 PM

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Good idea, let me "look for a dragon ball and go super sonic speed so I fly rigfht pass it...Awesome"

Bah, little kids gotenks ran around the world a couple times.

?? he was headed to capsule corp cause thats where the radar was he wasnt wondering around he had a destination.

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Yes but that is only snake way Goku had a longer journey to go than that.

No he didnt. At the end of snake way was king ki's planet and thats where he stayed an trained for 3 months cause it took him 9 months to run there.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:22 PM

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Good idea, let me "look for a dragon ball and go super sonic speed so I fly rigfht pass it...Awesome"

Bah, little kids gotenks ran around the world a couple times.

That was over a dozen times, and it was Gotenks, he's infanatly stronger...although he did have time for a nap before his fusion ended.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:23 PM

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No he didnt. At the end of snake way was king ki's planet and thats where he stayed an trained for 3 months cause it took him 9 months to run there.

But you said it when he was racing to earth he had farther ways to go to get to Gohan and the others.

Jul 16th, 2006 08:25 PM

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?? he was headed to capsule corp cause thats where the radar was he wasnt wondering around he had a destination.

And stopping 10 times to see what goku was doing ? Also take note it is a show so they show him going there, in the manga...quicker no expression

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And stopping 10 times to see what goku was doing ? Also take note it is a show so they show him going there, in the manga...quicker

very true, goku had to even yell at him to.

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