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Team 1 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Team 2 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 3 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 4 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 5 will make the dumbest pick in this round 2 11.76%
Team 6 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 7 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Team 8 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Digi will let a dodgy pick through 4 23.53%
Khell will complain vehemently about another teams pick 8 47.06%
Total: 17 votes 100%
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Tournament Draft Thread III
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HaSon
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If you guys have a problem with Juggs how do you feel about The Ray? evil face


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My thing is that if you argue so that your team can beat their other members (Shaman, Kyle) that Juggs is effectively screwed provided you have even a low-level telepath on your team. Juggs is only as invulnerable as his teammates in that sense, since nearly every team has some TP (even little-used ones like Majestic and Surfer)

I'd be ok with him for that reason.

Also, battlefield removal with powers like teleportation and dimension-hopping is banned, but battlefield removal by normal means is ok. Even without a telepath, the popular "throw into the sun" technique is valid, provided you aren't using banned stuff to accomplish it (I could see most of the Superman-types being able to carry him there if the rest of his team was dealt with).


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Also, battlefield removal with powers like teleportation and dimension-hopping is banned, but battlefield removal by normal means is ok. Even without a telepath, the "throw into the sun" technique is valid, provided you aren't using banned stuff to accomplish it (I could see most of the Superman-types being able to carry him there if the rest of his team was dealt with).

BFR doesn't work on Juggs, as he can walk back to the battlefield after putting up his shield, even if he were sent into space.

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BFR doesn't work on Juggs, as he can walk back to the battlefield after putting up his shield, even if he were sent into space.


wtf? From outer space?!

I kinda need confirmation on this though, because not every team has a telepath, and if BFR doesn't work on him, I can't have an unkillable character. Depending on how the matches end up in round 1, it's possible Balir/newjak would face a team unable to defeat Juggs. ...that's not good.


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Oh, and not that I enjoy controversy, but is there anything I need to know about Witchfire? I'd rather deal with sh*t now than have it come up in matches.


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Wouldn't it take Juggs so long to get back that it would count as a win?


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Wouldn't it take Juggs so long to get back that it would count as a win?


Yeah. Kinda like what we used in the street tourney. Beating the f*ck out of Deadpool couted as a win, since it would take hima while to heal, it was aas good as a win.

...gah, so much to think about.


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Here's an additional rule we can add in to deal with this:

..... if a match becomes a stalemate, ie - neither team can convincingly take out all 3 of their opponents, then the team with the most characters left standing wins


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Here's an additional rule we can add in to deal with this:

..... if a match becomes a stalemate, ie - neither team can convincingly take out all 3 of their opponents, then the team with the most characters left standing wins


Fair enough. Given that rule, and the fact that BFR and TP can = a win against Juggs, I think he should be fine to allow.

And Classic, not 8th Day/Trion. I said that a while ago, but I'm just confirming it.


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Ok... that all sounds fair


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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Fair enough. Given that rule, and the fact that BFR and TP can = a win against Juggs, I think he should be fine to allow.

And Classic, not 8th Day/Trion. I said that a while ago, but I'm just confirming it.


along with making him fly, you DO know that shaman can protect juggs from tp, right . . .? possibly even if shaman is ko'd.

the juggs thing really may come back to bite you in the arse . . .


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What Shaman can do, others can undo (not everyone, but some teams seem to have that covered)


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along with making him fly, you DO know that shaman can protect juggs from tp, right . . .? possibly even if shaman is ko'd.

the juggs thing really may come back to bite you in the arse . . .


I realize that, but I stated earlier that if a team can argue a win over Shaman (he's hardly invincible) Juggs is effectively stripped of his protections. So he's really only as invulnerable as Shaman/GL in that sense.


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i agree shaman is far from invulnerable, but if juggs is additionally shielded and the protection exists even after shaman falls . . .

you may need to deal with some ^%$# over this . . .


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when does the next round start tomorrow in 2 days when?


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i agree shaman is far from invulnerable, but if juggs is additionally shielded and the protection exists even after shaman falls . . .

you may need to deal with some ^%$# over this . . .



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I thought this was staying pinned until all the teams were finalised... as far as i know one or two teams may yet change a character


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I'm still pondering on one of my choices. I'm thinking about switching one of our characters but I need Accel to reply to my PM first.


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