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Team 1 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Team 2 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 3 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 4 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 5 will make the dumbest pick in this round 2 11.76%
Team 6 will make the dumbest pick in this round 0 0%
Team 7 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Team 8 will make the dumbest pick in this round 1 5.88%
Digi will let a dodgy pick through 4 23.53%
Khell will complain vehemently about another teams pick 8 47.06%
Total: 17 votes 100%
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Tournament Draft Thread III
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Blair Wind
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slow shifty

hehehe

by the way I voted Khell to complain about a pick....yes


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In-fact how in the hell DOES somebody get a win against Juggs if they don't have Tp on their team . Take my team for example. We can't BFR him , we can't knock him out ?

What the hell do we do ?


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TheKahn
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Originally posted by newjak86
Yet he can still give the JLA and JSA trouble Juggs can't do that


And yet "normal" Juggernaut can take Thor's godblast without even being phased and can't be attacked with his shield up.


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Then magic works on him plus Juggs is slow. There is a numer of ways to put him down if your creative enough.


Coming from Mr 'Infinite Cheap Powers' aye Purse boy....


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But "normal" Juggy still has far greater durability than Despero and, some argue, unlimited strength. Despero isn't as durable as him, nor can it be argued that he has unlimited strength, and he doesn't have matter manipulation like a lot of character's drafted do.

Despero has strength enough to manhandle multiple elite Class 100's at once.

Fact: Despero has always been beaten by plot devices.
Fact: Juggernaut has lost to plenty of people in a variety of ways.


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Originally posted by grey fox
In-fact how in the hell DOES somebody get a win against Juggs if they don't have Tp on their team . Take my team for example. We can't BFR him , we can't knock him out ?

What the hell do we do ?
Then you find a way to stop him freeze him stuff like that he isn't unbeatable by any means of the imagination otherwise quite a few people would have dies along time ago.

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Power meshing that what this tourny is all about.


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I'm going for 45 minuties ok. Doctor Who is on.... I shall return though .


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HaSon
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Originally posted by newjak86
Read above

No need. You have two judges telling you he's banned. Consider another pick.


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leonidas
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Shaman isn't close to Strange level. Really, lets not start that crap again. If you want to talk non CIS, I could argue Silver Surfer beats Thanos. Fact is it's always taken massive plot devices to beat Despero. He's banned.


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i'd need a bit of an explanation here. sure he was battling the jla, but thor and wonderman have both battled the avengers. count nefaria wiped out the friggin avengers AND thunderbolts alone, yet i could pick him.

despero went h2h with supes ina recent jla arc and supes was holding his own. if he IS above supes strength (likely), it's not by much, and certainly not by feats. his tp is uber, no doubt, but i've not seen him building and recreating cites in nano-seconds ala god-cable. when the rock of eternity was dropped on him, he was already pretty much screwed. when he wiped out the jla, he did it one or 2 at a time and he is (like thanos) is uber smart and always has a plan. it's not like he walked up to them all and beat them to a pulp and hypnotized them. this is also the 'physical' despero we're taking, not the possession despero. he's got none of the matter manip so many have, no magic, just uber-strength and uber tp.

and beyond all that, even draco says he's a great pick for this level tourny!

honestly, i see no reason for him to be banned, val. and didn't i run him by you and you say he was all right . . .? confused (maybe that was digi?)


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No need. You have two judges telling you he's banned. Consider another pick.
Fine then we'll scratch 8th Day


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Despero has strength enough to manhandle multiple elite Class 100's at once.

Fact: Despero has always been beaten by plot devices.
Fact: Juggernaut has lost to plenty of people in a variety of ways.


And why can't Juggy do that as well?

And him being beat by plot devices is only because he isn't used that often. If DC used him more, then more people would have beaten him by now. The fact remains that he is a step below Juggernaut in durability and that any number of characters already selected could go h2h with him. Hell, Gladiator and Majestic have both moved around planets which put them into the billions of ton class.


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And why can't Juggy do that as well?

And him being beat by plot devices is only because he isn't used that often. If DC used him more, then more people would have beaten him by now. The fact remains that he is a step below Juggernaut in durability and that any number of characters already selected could go h2h with him. Hell, Gladiator and Majestic have both moved around planets which put them into the billions of ton class.


However, his powers work MUCH quicker than everyone elses. His eyes are directly connected to his brain, therefore, he looks at you and you're f*cked.


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the whole jugg's thing is hilarious to me. i brought up the fact that without bfr he'd be almost impossible to beat and everyone laughed and said who'd take him anyway . . .

not so funny now, eh . . .?


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However, his powers work MUCH quicker than everyone elses. His eyes are directly connected to his brain, therefore, he looks at you and you're f*cked.


And all Black Bolt has to do is say, "huh." There are several characters that have already been picked that are above him in physical stats, are more versatile, and whose powers work just as fast. Not that that is of vital importance as everyone gets prep time.


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i'd need a bit of an explanation here. sure he was battling the jla, but thor and wonderman have both battled the avengers. count nefaria wiped out the friggin avengers AND thunderbolts alone, yet i could pick him.

despero went h2h with supes ina recent jla arc and supes was holding his own. if he IS above supes strength (likely), it's not by much, and certainly not by feats. his tp is uber, no doubt, but i've not seen him building and recreating cites in nano-seconds ala god-cable. when the rock of eternity was dropped on him, he was already pretty much screwed. when he wiped out the jla, he did it one or 2 at a time and he is (like thanos) is uber smart and always has a plan. it's not like he walked up to them all and beat them to a pulp and hypnotized them. this is also the 'physical' despero we're taking, not the possession despero. he's got none of the matter manip so many have, no magic, just uber-strength and uber tp.

and beyond all that, even draco says he's a great pick for this level tourny!

honestly, i see no reason for him to be banned, val. and didn't i run him by you and you say he was all right . . .? confused (maybe that was digi?)

I've talked to Draco about Despero before. He bases that opinion on a what time power Martian Manhunter displayed to beat him. A power that can't ever be used by him again so scratch that.


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However, his powers work MUCH quicker than everyone elses. His eyes are directly connected to his brain, therefore, he looks at you and you're f*cked.


not true, as it happens. if you do some research, you may be able to find that out for yourself . . .


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the whole jugg's thing is hilarious to me. i brought up the fact that without bfr he'd be almost impossible to beat and everyone laughed and said who'd take him anyway . . .

not so funny now, eh . . .?



I down played him on purpose shifty

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i'd need a bit of an explanation here. sure he was battling the jla, but thor and wonderman have both battled the avengers. count nefaria wiped out the friggin avengers AND thunderbolts alone, yet i could pick him.

despero went h2h with supes ina recent jla arc and supes was holding his own. if he IS above supes strength (likely), it's not by much, and certainly not by feats.

And Masterson Thor knocked out Thanos with the IG. no expression

Despero has more feats that put him above Superman strength than not. He doesn't fight teams. He stomps them.


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someone make a list of the contestants picks
i forgot hurry


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Originally posted by Validus
I've talked to Draco about Despero before. He bases that opinion on a what time power Martian Manhunter displayed to beat him. A power that can't ever be used by him again so scratch that.


so why exactly are you banning him, val? is it durability? (<juggs) strength? (supes=>despero) tp? (shaman nate/god-like cable=despero)

his great upside is that he combines these great attributes. none of the individual attributes exceed the limits. combined he is a bad mofo, but again, most herald levellers can be team wreckers. hell, there's a 30 pg thread saying the ss could wipe out the jla--ALL AT ONCE!

give me something specific you're banning him for. please. big grin

oh ya, sucks to be you left hanging for THIS round!


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