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[QUOTE=11454110]Originally posted by Wei Phoenix All that being said, Scott and Emma are still better than Jean. Looks more real and easy going. Jean and Scott seemed forced. Emma is better for him. [/QUOTE
Point being Emma and Scott are forced (by Jean), it was shown that Jean and Scott shared a psi rapport before they met, even Xavier couldn't locate him, he was only able to sense Scott through Jeans telepathy. He hasn't shown that he has any more passion for Emma now than he showed with Jean then, until after his merging which changed every aspect of his life not just his relationship with Jean. Scott being the perfect little boy scout was because of his relationship with Xavier, not Jean, he had nothing to prove to a woman who was constantly present in his mind, a facet of their relationship that was only possible because of her telepathy, a facet that she in fact never tried to reestablish after the rapport was broken, because she too was changed after regaining her tk. He never loved Emma until Jean pushed him to, even during their "affair" the only way she could get him excited was to seduce him by making herself more Jean-like in appearance and he still only loved Jean, even after her death. His relationship with Emma is based on telepathic coercion, not genuine feelings, it's like an arranged marriage he's grown to have feelings for her, but only due to Jean's actions.
when scott was with jean, she was his first love, everything they had was pure and disney like. she was a princess up on a pedestal, and he spent his time trying to measure up, trying to be the perfect man for her. that meant him hiding urges and feelings that he felt might turn jean away, or make her see him in a different light. whether jean would have accepted him or not is another story, but in his heart and mind, he was afraid of losing her...
with emma, she knows and accepts him. he's more willing to be open with her, and show him those sides of him that aren't perfect or romantic. they're both damaged goods, and it makes them readily available to accept each other's faults.
jean did manipulate scott, but i'm pretty sure every single writer since then has just forgotten about morrison's bit of phoenix manipulation...
Thing is that she wouldn't have manipulated him if she didn't think that Emma was right for him. Yes, right for him, not ok, or a replacement for her, but right for him.
It's quite clear that Jean did something with Scott's mind in the last arc, but she definitely did not make him fall in love with Emma, that would be pretty opposite to the theme of Morrison's run which was breaking old (stale) cycles and building up new things for the future. Starting out with brainwashing someone to fall in love with someone else does not seem to fit that very well.
Scott and Jean had grown apart which was clearly highlighted during their interactions and Scott's talk with Logan in the Hellfire Club during the Weapon Plus storyline. Scott drifted towards Emma which of course made him feel more guilty about the whole mess. So when Jean died in Planet X it was quite obvious how he would react, consider everything his fault and go away to bury himself in guilt and shame. Her death was the straw that broke the camel's back.
What Jean did was simply removing this crushing guilt. She urged him "live", she did not force him to hook up with Emma, that was just a natural consequence when the guilt was taken away.
At least that interpretation makes more sense to me than Jean brainwashing Scott to fall in love with her rival. That would hardly be necessary to make Scott get his act together. It's also a more unselfish act on Jean's part knowing Scott would go to Emma of his own free will instead of having her do it for him. (If you have to lose your childhood love I imagine it would be easier if you decided it yourself rather than him doing it on his own).
i think scott just happened to be with emma at the time. jean saw that scott saw something in emma, so made him stay. i don't think she made scott fall for emma, as him loving her took a while to fully blossom. at the most, i think jean just opened his mind to the possibility a little...
I mainly wanted to expand upon the last part of Jean's so called manipulation (I see it more like her setting him free), but left the other parts in for context.
apparently, [SPOILER - highlight to read]: madelyne pryor is back from the dead, cyclops' relationship with emma is a little shaky, and colossus is struggling to deal with kitty's death...
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