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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Correct, Surfers powers are based on Cosmic Energy right?




He tried to manipulate DD's nervous system. What I'm showing you is the result. I don't feel like damaging my book anymore by stretching it wide open for the scan. Sorry bout that.


Aha, but he is not composed of energy!

That's quite coincidental... shifty j/k

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Have you read the comic?
At the end, Waverider sends Doomsday into the entropy at the end of time.


I haven't. Thank you.

Can Doomsday timetravel?

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Could Doomsday evolve to be immune to himself?

Somewhere in the multiverse (hell, we'll search the Omniverse if we have to), there is a Good Doomsday ("Rapture"?). We bring him into this universe, and we just pit the two against each other. Man, imagine ringside seats to that one.


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Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Agreed. One would wonder why Waverider wouldn't perform such a tactic on Doomsday. PIS I suppose. It seems that Doomsday tends to make people overestimate themselves.

I wouldn't want to see a Surfer vs. Doomsday fist fight. sick confused


Ahh..so maybe you can understand why I had wondered why Surfer did exactly that with Thanos.


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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Ahh..so maybe you can understand why I had wondered why Surfer did exactly that with Thanos.


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Could Doomsday evolve to be immune to himself?

Somewhere in the multiverse (hell, we'll search the Omniverse if we have to), there is a Good Doomsday ("Rapture"?). We bring him into this universe, and we just pit the two against each other. Man, imagine ringside seats to that one.


Let's not forget Doomsboy... laughing


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I haven't. Thank you.

Can Doomsday timetravel?
Later on, Brainiac went to the exact point he was left there and grabbed him, thinking he could put the most powerful mind into the most powerful ever evolving body the universe has ever known. . . . only.. Doomsday evolved to beat this pretty quickly.

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Could Doomsday evolve to be immune to himself?

Somewhere in the multiverse (hell, we'll search the Omniverse if we have to), there is a Good Doomsday ("Rapture"?). We bring him into this universe, and we just pit the two against each other. Man, imagine ringside seats to that one.


What if the Presence killed Doomsday? shifty

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< envisioning Doomswoman :::eewwww:::


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Later on, Brainiac went to the exact point he was left there and grabbed him, thinking he could put the most powerful mind into the most powerful ever evolving body the universe has ever known. . . . only.. Doomsday evolved to beat this pretty quickly.


Beat what?

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What if the Presence killed Doomsday? shifty
Presence does not take action, but if it's hand of vengeance The Spectre wanted to end Doomsday, it would irrevocably be the end of Doomsday as it is with all things.

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Beat what?
The mind control.
Highly advanced tech based.

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Aha, but he is not composed of energy!

Ah! But energy has been manipulated on the fly. DD had NEVER faced Waverider before. He's no more an energy being that SS is. I'll admit that Radiant was pure energy. Though.

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That's quite coincidental... shifty j/k

That's my evil scheme... bwa ha hahahaaa! smokin'


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Presence does not take action, but if it's hand of vengeance The Spectre wanted to end Doomsday, it would irrevocably be the end of Doomsday as it is with all things.


Guy knows his stuff.

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The mind control.
Highly advanced tech based.


Oh.

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Ah! But energy has been manipulated on the fly. DD had NEVER faced Waverider before. He's no more an energy being that SS is. I'll admit that Radiant was pure energy. Though.


That's my evil scheme... bwa ha hahahaaa! smokin'


BUT! Waverider beat Doomsday. Surfer can too. All he needs to do is learn how to manipulate time. smokin'

You diabolical madman! mad

We will continue this later!

TTYL wink

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BUT! Waverider beat Doomsday. Surfer can too. All he needs to do is learn how to manipulate time. smokin'

You diabolical madman! mad

We will continue this later!

TTYL wink


Actually, Supes motherbox used Waveriders energies to toss them all into the end of existence. Waverider woke up, grabbed Supes and got the hell out of dodge.

All Surfer needs is that pesky time gem now!

Have a good one bro!


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Doomsday fought the Energy being for over a week. Can Surfer even fight that long?


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Doomsday fought the Energy being for over a week. Can Surfer even fight that long?


He fought Gog and his army for a hundred years straight.


And he fought Radiant (the energy guy) for a week straight the first time, but in the rematch he won in like ten seconds flat.

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To answer some earlier questions in the thread, if they have already been answered than ignore this:

Waverider isn't an energy being. He is a Linear Man...someone who exists outside of time and makes sure no one screws with the time stream. This is why he didn't simply go back in time and kill doomsdays creator or anything like that. He has the potential to be one of the most powerful beings in the universe, in fact he is, but he doesn't screw with time, he preserves it. He was in fact overstepping his boundaries simply by helping Superman find Doomsday in Hunter/Prey. Also, he wasn't the one who took Doomsday to the end of time, Superman did. He just brought them back.

When he was getting the feedback from Doomsday, he was trying to find somekind of central nervous system or anything he could shut down in order to kill him. But the result you saw in the previous scans.

Many people are under the impression that Doomsday is just a big dumb rock that's really strong and don't give him enough credit. Doomsdays real power is he can sense his opponents weaknesses. You could argue that that's why he was marching towards metropolis in the Death of Superman arch...if he hadn't, Superman wouldn't of had to get into a close up brawl with him and he could have won. But Doomsday knew that Supermans weakness is his friends and family...supes had to get down and dirty with him in metropolis to save Lois, Jimmy and everyone.

He did the same thing in Hunter/Prey. When he was on Calaton, he was marching straight for the central reactor to destroy it. Again, Superman had to get down and brawl with him to keep him from destroying the reactor. And he would have won that fight hands down too if it weren't for Waverider's bracelet being used.


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To answer some earlier questions in the thread, if they have already been answered than ignore this:

Waverider isn't an energy being. He is a Linear Man...someone who exists outside of time and makes sure no one screws with the time stream. This is why he didn't simply go back in time and kill doomsdays creator or anything like that. He has the potential to be one of the most powerful beings in the universe, in fact he is, but he doesn't screw with time, he preserves it. He was in fact overstepping his boundaries simply by helping Superman find Doomsday in Hunter/Prey. Also, he wasn't the one who took Doomsday to the end of time, Superman did. He just brought them back.

When he was getting the feedback from Doomsday, he was trying to find somekind of central nervous system or anything he could shut down in order to kill him. But the result you saw in the previous scans.

Many people are under the impression that Doomsday is just a big dumb rock that's really strong and don't give him enough credit. Doomsdays real power is he can sense his opponents weaknesses. You could argue that that's why he was marching towards metropolis in the Death of Superman arch...if he hadn't, Superman wouldn't of had to get into a close up brawl with him and he could have won. But Doomsday knew that Supermans weakness is his friends and family...supes had to get down and dirty with him in metropolis to save Lois, Jimmy and everyone.

He did the same thing in Hunter/Prey. When he was on Calaton, he was marching straight for the central reactor to destroy it. Again, Superman had to get down and brawl with him to keep him from destroying the reactor. And he would have won that fight hands down too if it weren't for Waverider's bracelet being used.


Very informative. Kudos.

Surfer can time travel, and he can take people with him whilst doing so. Couldn't he attempt the same thing Superman did?

On a side note, query: isn't Doomsday somewhat vulnerable to Kryptonite radiation?

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