You really seem to have it in for Debbiejo. Son.. hehehe.
But anyway she is talking from a historical viewpoint. Remember the Bible you advocate so greatly was not written by Jesus, it was written by people based, apparently, on what Jesus said. AFTER his death. Some time AFTER his death. And of 12 Disciples only four got a call back to go in the Bible at the council. That isn't even a majority. I think it is valid for Debbiejo to comment on the possibility that Paul may have mixed it up a little (or lot.)
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From even the greatest of horrors irony is seldom absent.
[Jesus said], "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell will not prove stronger than it." Matthew 16:18.
"Bear in mind that our's Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him." 2 Peter 3:15
I think that if Paul wrote a false gospel, Peter, who witnessed Christ first hand and who was given the highest authority on teaching the word by Christ himself, would have corrected and bashed Paul's teachings instead of commending them as coming from God. This also provideds proof that the New Testament was written in the first century. Also, if you think about Jesus, who is 'One with the Father', and therefore did write much of the Scripture and Gospel as confirmed by these verses:
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness."
2 Timothy 3:16
and
"Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy was never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." 2 Peter 1:20-21.
I do not have it in for anyone not even you Imperial_Samura or your boy Alliance.
I am against the persistent blasphemy and deceit that I believe Debbiejo puts forth with unmitigated gall. I am not against her, but she is the purveyor of the untruths so it looks as though I am against "her." I oppose what she spews because she cannot substantiate it by or with the Bible. Everything that I write--EVERYTHING--is backed up, supported, substantiated, predicated, and based on the Bible--God's Word. But what Debbiejo writes is not and yet she persists in disseminating fallacy and stark--for one of a better way to say it--LIES.
There was a man named Sergius Paulus, an intelligent man, who also was a proconsul. This man called for Barnabas and Saul (Paul's original name) and sought to hear the Word of God. However, there was a sorcerer who was also a false prophet, named Elymas. This man withstood and opposed Barnabas and Saul (Paul), seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him (Elymas) and said, "O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord?--Acts 13:6-12 paraphrased by me.
If it is okay for Saul (Paul) to say this to someone then it is okay for me. And, trust me I have fought to refrain from characterizing Debbiejo with this verse of Scripture. But hey, if the shoe fits....
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Shakyamunison you are not even a Christian--not judging you, I am just basing this on your posts. I can tell who knows Jesus and who doesn't simply by what they say or write until they show me as it were, otherwise. Get saved FIRST, then if I get out of line you can have the authority to call me on the carpet--in love though, Christian love. It is okay for Christians to rebuke other Christians Paul did it to Peter. But for a non-Christian to try and use Scripture--which they don't even know well is misplaced. That would be like me trying to rebuke a muslim with their koran. I would need to become a Muslim to rebuke another Muslim. This is my point of view.
Galatians 2:11
Now when Peter had come to Antioch, I [Paul] withstood him to his face, because he was to be blamed;
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Debbiejo, this is ANOTHER GOSPEL. This is what I mean when I say that you do not have the Holy Spirit living on the inside of you and that I can tell that you are not saved. How can you write what you wrote in the above post and call yourself saved?
Galatians 1:6-9
6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel , 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
I have no problem with Jesus, but his followers are pretty stupid....I'm sure he agrees though and we will party in heaven while you intolerant bigot ****s burn in hell
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Bardock42 is a whimpering pussy now who lost his flare to debate vigorously and just spouts senseless and thinly veiled puns here and there. You nazi pr*ck. Get your balls back from whoever you sold them to, you fat f*ck. What happened to the manly, chubby German big mouth we once knew, who'd flatten ignorance with a solid argument? Now it's like Andy Dick meets John Candy. You hybrid beefcake. Suck my c*ck
"The Lord is with you when you are with him. If you seek him, he will be found by you, but if you forsake him, he will forsake you." 2 Chronicles 15:2 (Another useful verse in the Chronicles, how about that).
"If we disown him, he will also disown us" 2 Timothy 2:12.
"But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God" Luke 12:9.
Yes it is another gospel......the one that came FIRST!!.........As for being antiChrist, I suppose I am not that I have anything against Jesus, it's would what the church did to make him the "Christ"........and in doing so made slaves of you all..
I guess most of us thinking people are antichrists.......*damn 666 won't come off*
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Jul 17th, 2006 10:48 PM
I was talking to JesusIsAlive, but what you said sounded like it fit. 
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