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Anakin Skywalker's Father

Now the interesting part

Anakin Skywalker did have a father, but to find it you had to listen carefully and put the facts together

I haven't watched the movies for a while so I won't bother quoting the actual words used, but I am sure you will check if you want to.

Shmi tells Qui Gon that there was no father, that it was an "immaculate conception" so to speak. Qui Gon deduces he was born of the midichlorians. This was important to know why??? No other star wars movie discussed Midi chlorians.

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Palpatine tells anakin about plagueis. He even states he could even create life NOW WHEN PALPATINE SAYS THIS, listen to the emphasis, right as he says life he looks at anakin, directly at him, not a side glance or a nod but right at him. Now Palpatine saw Plagueis do this so we know that Plagueis created life. Palpatine always knew about anakin and where he was becuase he saw Plagueis create him.

This was on tatooine because it was a backwater world and the work done there would have been around 9 years before Ep 1. Perfect time for Sidious to kill Plagueis and begin the End Game. People think that Sidious Lost the first round (Ep 1 - Trade Federation Beaten) But let's look at Sidious, This guy was a master planner - The ultimate in Machiavellian scheming. Naboo and the blockade was all for 3 reasons. Not one but 3

1 - to get a droid army up and running to foreshadow the CIS
2 - to get elected Supreme Chancellor
3 - to get anakin into the jedi order.

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You crack me up Blaxican.

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Lucas left the identity of Anakin's "father" as ambiguous, but people can argue that Palpatine or Plagueis were responsible. There are theories to support both.

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Can't say about the theory with palpatine

But we KNOW for sure that PLAGUIES did it once. THerefore you have someone born of the midichlorians. Anakin was extremely powerful becuase of this.

If Palpatine did it, then there would be two extremely powerful force users out there. Not so, only Anakin

Yes Lucas never came out and said it, but he never came out and said a lot of things.

IT is all too chilling when you look at the way that palpatine looks directly at Anakin when he says life. You almost expect him to say "You"

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Originally posted by Archangelysses
Can't say about the theory with palpatine

But we KNOW for sure that PLAGUIES did it once. THerefore you have someone born of the midichlorians. Anakin was extremely powerful becuase of this.

If Palpatine did it, then there would be two extremely powerful force users out there. Not so, only Anakin

Yes Lucas never came out and said it, but he never came out and said a lot of things.

IT is all too chilling when you look at the way that palpatine looks directly at Anakin when he says life. You almost expect him to say "You"


Erm . . . Palpatine was an extremely powerful Force user.

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Yes he was, But even he admitted that Anakin would become more powerful and the way he said it implied not by just a little but infinitely more powerful

Going by that, then any other midi chlorian created being would be just as powerful as anakin. two vergences of the force, I don't know but that seems doubtful

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You crack me up Blaxican.



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Originally posted by Archangelysses
Can't say about the theory with palpatine

But we KNOW for sure that PLAGUIES did it once. THerefore you have someone born of the midichlorians. Anakin was extremely powerful becuase of this.

If Palpatine did it, then there would be two extremely powerful force users out there. Not so, only Anakin

Yes Lucas never came out and said it, but he never came out and said a lot of things.

IT is all too chilling when you look at the way that palpatine looks directly at Anakin when he says life. You almost expect him to say "You"
I ain't familiar with what background Plagueis has, but when did Plagueis perform this power?


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There are huge timeline errors with Plagueis creating Anakin. It's not viable, unless it takes longer than dozens of years for "teh Ch0sen Ones" to get conceived.

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Originally posted by Archangelysses
Yes he was, But even he admitted that Anakin would become more powerful and the way he said it implied not by just a little but infinitely more powerful

Going by that, then any other midi chlorian created being would be just as powerful as anakin. two vergences of the force, I don't know but that seems doubtful


According to Lucas, Anakin could've been twice as strong as Palpatine.

However, if Palpatine had the power to create Anakin, it still wouldn't make him more powerful than Anakin. Just better versed and more experienced in the Force.

Which he was.

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We don't know if Plagueis actually did or not. The New Essential Chronology of Star Wars states that it is unknown if Plagueis performed it before Palpatine murdered him. But Palpatine murdered him because he saw Anakin as a future replacement.

We'll have to wait for the Plagueis novel.


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We don't know if Plagueis actually did or not. The New Essential Chronology of Star Wars states that it is unknown if Plagueis performed it before Palpatine murdered him. But Palpatine murdered him because he saw Anakin as a future replacement.

We'll have to wait for the Plagueis novel.


See, I always wondered why Palpatine would murder Plageuis without ensuring that he had his knowledge . . .

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plagueis did it. that's one of the reasons sidious killed him. he read it as a threat to him being apprentice. plagueis wanted a powerdul apprentice. it backfired. sidious did the same thing to maul and dooku. he needed them to set the stage for chancellor and ruling the galaxy. that's when he got vader.

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plagueis did it. that's one of the reasons sidious killed him. he read it as a threat to him being apprentice. plagueis wanted a powerdul apprentice. it backfired. sidious did the same thing to maul and dooku. he needed them to set the stage for chancellor and ruling the galaxy. that's when he got vader.
That's only your theory.


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it's legit

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Originally posted by UltimateStryfe
it's legit


No, it's not.

It would be legitimate if it were proven.

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what i meant is that it is based on observed habits, events and circumstances. it is not proven until Lucas says it, obviously.

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People. Palpatine clearly stated that Plagueis could create life. Not possibly create, not said he could create. Palpatine was being literal. Therefore Plagueis performed this talent minimum once. Ala Anakin
Look closely at the way Palpatine says this to Anakin.

we know it could have happened 9 years prior. We don't know for sure when plagueis was killed. why is that so hard, and what errors in the timeline Generic Hero, I know of nothing that specifies anything clearly prior to ep 1 or around 9 years prior. where does this dozens of years come from

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Dude. There can only be 2 Sith.

Maul was Palpatine's apprentice since infancy. Let's say 4 years old.

Which means Plagueis was last alive 18 years before TPM. Let's say he creates Anakin right before he died.

Anakin was born 10 years before TPM.

It doesn't work, unless he spent some 8 years in his momma's tummy.

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