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Do people really think Superman can hold a Black Hole in his hands?
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Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
I'm going to make a comic where black holes are canceled out by throwing panties at it then.

For some reason, that makes total sense to me. big grin Happy Dance


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Originally posted by olympian
And he can do that. Its a comic. Writers arent NASA scientists that struggle to write a story that keeps the basis of real life physics. They write what they want to be shown as impressive.



so if the writers at marvel decided to let spiderman hold a black hole, would you pass that as believable?
i mean, it is only comic physics right?


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The whole truth as to whether supes can hold a black hole is dependent upon the physical characteristics of a black hole compared to superman's kryptonian abilities.


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No friend. That would be Hulk overcoming matter and anti-matter.


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so, up in flames, you're saying that a black hole has no mass but all matter that gives it mass ceases to exist? how, pray tell, does that work? theres no need to get nasty over it, by the way.


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so, up in flames, you're saying that a black hole has no mass but all matter that gives it mass ceases to exist? how, pray tell, does that work? theres no need to get nasty over it, by the way.



like i said, a black hole is formed when a super giant sun collapses under its own gravity. it devours itself in the process and continues to suck in objects that come within its grasp. a black hole is more like a force of universally vast magnitude that acts as a cosmic vortex with a big appetite for intersteller objects.

it is by conclusive theory that a black hole has infinite density (astoundingly massive, no volume) with a gravitational pull equivalent to its nature- impossible to be determined. what can only be calculated about its gravitational pull is its lowest limit, which is found based upon the application of physics formulae to the extent of which a black hole can gravitate photon particles toward it.

that being said, i further add that the nature of a black hole is based upon the study of dark matter, as theorised by einstein. dark matter is believed to be the gravitational force that holds everything in the universe together, and takes up 90% of the total mass in the universe.

anyway, back to topic... you cannot hold a vortex, so you cannot hold a black hole. it is irrational even though its based on comics.

and as for me being nasty, i apologise. forgive me for losing my temper over this small matter. smile

just stop asking the same questions over again, eh?


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alright, thanks up in flames smile i only wanted a bit of clarification on it is all. sorry i repeated myself on the question. excellent explanation by the way. smile


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superman did hold a black hole in his hands... its a comic book

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Originally posted by Up In Flames
so if the writers at marvel decided to let spiderman hold a black hole, would you pass that as believable?
i mean, it is only comic physics right?

Yes and no.

We have seen characters shut down dimensional openings with strength alone. Its how it is. But those are characters that they write with levels strong enough to do that.

Spiderman isent one of them. Now, if they boost him up with a power level to do that and actually make it so...sure. Why not?

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alright, thanks up in flames smile i only wanted a bit of clarification on it is all. sorry i repeated myself on the question. excellent explanation by the way. smile



its all good, bro. thumb up

i watched the matrix the night before so was really in the mood for some theatrical speech.


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Yes and no.

We have seen characters shut down dimensional openings with strength alone. Its how it is. But those are characters that they write with levels strong enough to do that.

Spiderman isent one of them. Now, if they boost him up with a power level to do that and actually make it so...sure. Why not?



physical strength has nothing to do with holding a vortex of any sort.


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i say no, supermans good and all but a black hole?! not even light can escape those things, supoerman would get swallowed whole, then killed, no light in there mate


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he held a black hole in his hands, seen the pic, read the pic, it's in the pic

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physical strength has nothing to do with holding a vortex of any sort.

Energy cant be grabbed either and Hulk did it.

I wonder what that means.

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Energy cant be grabbed either and Hulk did it.

I wonder what that means.



we're talking superman here, not hulk


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well they are talking about strength here and hulk and superman have an abundance of the stuff

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Originally posted by Up In Flames
we're talking superman here, not hulk

We are talking about how strength works in comics. Both have high levels of it and can and have done things that are called "impossible".

At least be consistant.

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We are talking about how strength works in comics. Both have high levels of it and can and have done things that are called "impossible".

At least be consistant.



black holes, vortexes, time warps are all energy-based and are intangible, therefore no matter how strong a character is, there is no way he could grab an object that is not comprised of solid material. wink


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And yet time storms, dimensional portals and energy have been grabbed/punched/negated with strength.

Why? Because this isent real life settings/physics. Its comics, where everything depending the story and character levels, can happen. The writers use whatEVER works for theyr own story.

I find this notion extremely simple, but ok. To each its own.

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And yet time storms, dimensional portals and energy have been grabbed/punched/negated with strength.

Why? Because this isent real life settings/physics. Its comics, where everything depending the story and character levels, can happen. The writers use whatEVER works for theyr own story.

I find this notion extremely simple, but ok. To each its own.



you're going off-track. this thread is not about whether there's any comic evidence as to whether superman can hold a black hole - there already is. what the thread is asking is whether YOU believe that such a notion is rational. no expression


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