The whole truth as to whether supes can hold a black hole is dependent upon the physical characteristics of a black hole compared to superman's kryptonian abilities.
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so, up in flames, you're saying that a black hole has no mass but all matter that gives it mass ceases to exist? how, pray tell, does that work? theres no need to get nasty over it, by the way.
like i said, a black hole is formed when a super giant sun collapses under its own gravity. it devours itself in the process and continues to suck in objects that come within its grasp. a black hole is more like a force of universally vast magnitude that acts as a cosmic vortex with a big appetite for intersteller objects.
it is by conclusive theory that a black hole has infinite density (astoundingly massive, no volume) with a gravitational pull equivalent to its nature- impossible to be determined. what can only be calculated about its gravitational pull is its lowest limit, which is found based upon the application of physics formulae to the extent of which a black hole can gravitate photon particles toward it.
that being said, i further add that the nature of a black hole is based upon the study of dark matter, as theorised by einstein. dark matter is believed to be the gravitational force that holds everything in the universe together, and takes up 90% of the total mass in the universe.
anyway, back to topic... you cannot hold a vortex, so you cannot hold a black hole. it is irrational even though its based on comics.
and as for me being nasty, i apologise. forgive me for losing my temper over this small matter.
just stop asking the same questions over again, eh?
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alright, thanks up in flames i only wanted a bit of clarification on it is all. sorry i repeated myself on the question. excellent explanation by the way.
We have seen characters shut down dimensional openings with strength alone. Its how it is. But those are characters that they write with levels strong enough to do that.
Spiderman isent one of them. Now, if they boost him up with a power level to do that and actually make it so...sure. Why not?
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i say no, supermans good and all but a black hole?! not even light can escape those things, supoerman would get swallowed whole, then killed, no light in there mate
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black holes, vortexes, time warps are all energy-based and are intangible, therefore no matter how strong a character is, there is no way he could grab an object that is not comprised of solid material.
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And yet time storms, dimensional portals and energy have been grabbed/punched/negated with strength.
Why? Because this isent real life settings/physics. Its comics, where everything depending the story and character levels, can happen. The writers use whatEVER works for theyr own story.
I find this notion extremely simple, but ok. To each its own.
you're going off-track. this thread is not about whether there's any comic evidence as to whether superman can hold a black hole - there already is. what the thread is asking is whether YOU believe that such a notion is rational.
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