i know this is gonna sound weird, but i always take the side of the jews, seeing as how they dont have suicide bombers and all, but damn, this looks like they had something in the works,and the kidnappings just provided them with the perfect opportunity to invade. next thing you know, Iran will be goaded into aiding the arabs, and then thegood ol predictable US will jump in and say its time for a regime change in both syria and Iran and send more of our pretty stretched thin troops over there.----then we would really get the oil..thats just simply brilliant sure a few thousand lives will be sacrificed, but when we pull up at the pump and gas is $1.10, like it was back in 98-99. then it will make all our pain go away--ahhhh
(btw sorry if somebody posted somethng similar, i didnt bother to read all 200 pages)
When a country launches attacks on your country on a daily basis for several years, that's a pretty good excuse to go to war.
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Everyone in the country is not a fricking terrorist. Everyone uses those structures. Would plowing up your local gas station help stike agaisnt the ELF? NO. The terrorists are in the south. They're bombing the capitol. Its TOTALLY disproportionate.
EVERYONE uses those things. Thats by defenition infrasturcture.
Wow I feel like I was watching the Syrian Ambassador on T.V. again. You never even answered my question, you just went on a tirade of ranting about disproportionate action again.
Yes I get it, you think its disproportionate action, moving forward. Perhaps you could just answer the question?
I didn't kno wyou were asking a question. I'm saying that Isreals destruction of public infrastructure can be construed as terrorism. It also hurts more non-terrorists than the terrorists itself, which makes people angry, and creates more terrorism.
And I have no more respect for Syria, than I do for Lebanon or Isreal.
Sorry I must of missed that monologue. What did he say that was so offensive? And if he's that far to the right how did he get offered a show on a CNN affiliate?
The difference I see when that country is ignoring the problem within their borders is negligible.
To take it out of the mideast, if the illegal aliens in the US were to repeatedly attack Canada, and the US did nothing to try to stop them, then Canada would be completely justified in taking matters into their own hands.
It would never happen of course. The illegal aliens here have no reason to attack Canada, and if they did the US would take care of the problems within its own borders.
Hezbollah couldn't care less about the people of Lebanon (that's irony for ya, considering the people of Lebanon voted them in). Otherwise, they wouldn't be using Lebanese civilian territory as their military base. But then, that Is how terrorists fight.
On the other hand, if Israel felt the same way about the Lebanese people as the Lebanese "government" does, they wouldn't need Hezbollah as a reason to do what they're doing; certainly they would Not be trying to minimize collateral damage.
If Israel cared so much for the Lebanese civilians they'd comply with international law.
I don't get what you're trying to say? The government of Lebanon is actually Hezbollah?
The Lebanese government does not have the resources of the U.S. government. The U.S. has previously acknowledged the Lebanese government does not have the capability of controlling Hezbollah territory.
The militant group Hezbollah has more power and a stronger "military" then the actual government of Lebanon. They are strongly supported by the Lebanese people which is another reason the Lebanese government cant remove them from office, it would split their country.
So I say if the Lebanese want to support this terrorist militant group then they are just as responsible. These terrorists continue to attack Israel then flee and hide behind civilians who support them, Israel is fed up with it. They are warning civilians to leave the area in case things really heat up, Israel is just bombing what they believe to be strategic Hezbollah targets. They have yet to start any serious bombardment.
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There was a relevent article published over the weekend in the NY Times and several other papers by Thomas Friedman regarding the political situation in the Middle East, which may help to further clear up the confusion regarding Hezbollah and the Lebanese government:
Here's the thing X, stop minimalizing the fact that Hezbollah are a part of the govt. You know why, because they are. In fact there was UN sanctions 1559 last year that said to Lebanon step it up and take care of Hezbollah. Guess what, Israel is tired of getting hit with missiles and attacked so it looks like they are going to clean it up.
Victimized Lebanese folks again....................yup I guess its true. Israel is really laying into those civilians time and again!
If anyone has seen the damage Israel has inflicted its been minimal to Civilian while Maximizing it's attacks on the Hezbollah who are HIDING among the civilians. So you have military targets sitting next to civilian targets. The only group here that is deliberatly attacking civilians it's the Hezbollah.
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Firstly UNSC Resolution 1559 did not impose any sanctions on Lebanon. Secondly while the resolution does call for the disbanding and disarmament of Lebanese militia its predominant focus was on Syrian influence in Lebanon and the removal of foreign forces, the resolution was hastily drafted and slimly passed. Thirdly parties involved have been attempting to comply. Fourthly and finally if you want to talk about UNSC Resolution defiance, Israel is in defiance of 69 separate UNSC resolutions, having been protected from another 41 by U.S. veto, which they probably would have defied anyway if they had passed.
i say let the jews have at it man what the hey. i know that completely sounds like im justifying the tension but they've been on the receieving end for quite some time now..even tho the downside is all the arab nations and the rogue miltia groups are gonna look like geniouses now. cuz in the midst of calling for the eradication of isreal, these terrorists f ****s always claim that the zionists are perpetrating unspeakable evil throught the world. even here in America those guys who go to prison and convert to Islam always come back out with a hatred for jews. thetn you have dumb f ****s like farrakan eggin them on, so the fundamentalists in the arab world are gonna be like "see we told you about those dirty jews." arrgghhh *shakes fist angrily * and then as a result the tension will never cease