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HueyFreeman
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Originally posted by galan7777777
why not? LT says that he serves only TOAA, it would make perfect sense if that was a real human being in the real world (stan lee)....... because TOAA himself has never been shown in actual marvel publication

Fantastic four issue they meet him

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If truley Beyonder could cause the time-stream to colapse than there would be no Marvel, and no beings in it.

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Fantastic four issue they meet him

no, they meet jack kirby who is the artist, he still gets his ideas from somewhere... (stan lee)

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If truley Beyonder could cause the time-stream to colapse than there would be no Marvel, and no beings in it.

i agree, but he could only accomplish this task if real collabarators, and real artists depicted him doing this...... without the real people there is no beyonder, or marvel lol

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i agree, but he could only accomplish this task if real collabarators, and real artists depicted him doing this...... without the real people there is no beyonder, or marvel lol

Yes...

Aug 28th, 2006 04:17 PM

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Yes...

ok thats what im saying, if TOAA is an abstract character within marvel itself (wich has never been seen), then yes beyonder could beat him........ but u cant say that beyonder is more powerful then then artists/collaborators, that thought him to life lol!

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Originally posted by galan7777777
ok thats what im saying, if TOAA is an abstract character within marvel itself (wich has never been seen), then yes beyonder could beat him........ but u cant say that beyonder is more powerful then then artists/collaborators, that thought him to life lol!

Let me put it this way: Beyonder had more power than Thanos w/ Heart.

Aug 28th, 2006 07:41 PM

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Let me put it this way: Beyonder had more power than Thanos w/ Heart.

well that is arguable and i dont even wanna get into that lol........ but all im saying is that u cannot honestly think that beyonder could beat the real life writers/collabarators, beyonder is a comic and they are real...

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well that is arguable and i dont even wanna get into that lol........ but all im saying is that u cannot honestly think that beyonder could beat the real life writers/collabarators, beyonder is a comic and they are real...

Yes, Beyonder is, no was* in the comic's the writers arent.

Pre-retcon* Blue Amalgam Brother, (fictional-) God: One with everything in the Multi-verse, he is the Multi-verse and all the forces within it, bond to it.

Thanos with the Heart of Infinite: Bond to Omni-reality.

Result :
God : Bond to evrything, he is the Multi-verse and everything in it.

Pre-retcon* Beyonder : millions of times the rest of the power combinded.

Aug 28th, 2006 08:10 PM

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Yes, Beyonder is, no was* in the comic's the writers arent.

Pre-retcon* Blue Amalgam Brother, (fictional-) God: One with everything in the Multi-verse, he is the Multi-verse and all the forces within it, bond to it.

Thanos with the Heart of Infinite: Bond to Omni-reality.

Result :
God : Bond to evrything, he is the Multi-verse and everything in it.

Pre-retcon* Beyonder : millions of times the rest of the power combinded.

wow, ure just stuck on the beyonder lol, all im saying it that he cant beat the real life humans that draw/think of him...... thats it

-nuff said

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no, they meet jack kirby who is the artist, he still gets his ideas from somewhere... (stan lee)

Jack Kirby is the real creator of the MU yes

I've read Stan Lee's draft for the FF and let me just tell you this much, it was awful. Lee wrote some great storys, but without Kirby there wouldnt be any Marvel comics.

Stan Lee is a legend in his own right, but Jack Kirby is THE king of comics

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God in the MU took the form of Jack Kirby.

Pretty much God is Kirby in the MU

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God in the MU took the form of Jack Kirby.

Pretty much God is Kirby in the MU

all im arguing about is that beyonder cant beat the real life animators/collabarators, etc.......nothing more

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all im arguing about is that beyonder cant beat the real life animators/collabarators, etc.......nothing more

And I said he could do that? - Prove it, by quoting something.

Aug 28th, 2006 09:54 PM

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And I said he could do that? - Prove it, by quoting something.

How the hell would he do it, papercut them to death.

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i think galan's point is that, as TOAA has never been shown or referenced specifically as a character within the marvel comics medium, it's possible the living tribunal's allegiance to him/it is a breech of the fourth wall. that stan lee, as "TOAA," exists beyond the infinite of the comicverse; much in the same way many believe god to exist beyond our comprehension of reality. it's really a pointless argument, and over-analyzed, but i believe that's the sum and substance of it.

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How the hell would he do it, papercut them to death.

I said, prove that I have said that Beyonder could defeat/kill a writer, of course i don't belive he can kill a human, he's a fictional character.

Aug 28th, 2006 11:43 PM

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i wish they retcon beyonder again and make him more powerful. doesnt have to be as powerful as TOAA but i wish they make him more powerful than LT. its such a shame to be demoted into something less than the celestials when before you were so powerful you could beat even LT.

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Lemme see if I can find a scan of Beyonder coming to life out of a panel and attacking Marvel co.

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IMHO TOAA > Classic Beyonder, since TOAA = Marvel God and the Beyonder part of the Marvel "reality" (Company). No Beyonder outside the Marvel Comics means for me = part of it.

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