Kid, I don't care if you give up or not, you're wrong. Let's get to the matter at hand, though. Fall Out Boy pop PUNK? Fall Out Boy haven't got anything to do with punk, that's exactly what the problem is with kids like you. You think anybody who makes pop music with real instruments automatically becomes punk. It doesn't work like that.
Black metal is different to death metal, totally. The vocals are sharper and more biting in black metal, the music tends to be more focused on technical and orchestral melody, where as in death metal the vocals are more gutteral and even though the music can be very technical, it's more natural. There is a reason, legitimate reason, behind those. There isn't one behind "Nintendocore".
No, you did that yourself.
F*ck, one second. My hypocrite alert just went crazy, I have to turn off the alarm...ok I'm back, what were you saying? Oh, right.
You were trying to say you were joking this whole time, simply because I've taught you a lesson. It happens, don't hate me for it, hate yourself.
It doesn't matter what the world is familiar with, because if it did, then My Chemical Romance would be considered emo, and I think even we can agree they are nothing of the sort.
Alternative metal is just saying different metal, it's legitimate. It's not as stupid as grindcore/deathcore/gothcore/post-punk/post-hardcore and shit like that.
The only time I've used Wikipedia to illustrate a point was their article on emo, and even then I have people on this site who can attest that I was saying the same thing way before I knew that article existed.
You think that because you've grown to know something, or studied it a bit, that you know all about it. You do not, and you continually prove that every time you post. I post factual backup, you post "Yeah but I've loved it for ages.". That's simply not how it works.
Folk is a genre, people call it folk rock, which I can deal with. Folk metal? That's bullshit and there is nobody credible that would say any different. Acoustic guitar is a traditional instrument of folk, does that mean Opeth are folk metal? Stop talking out of your anus, you fool.
Doom metal is used to describe bands such as Sunn0))), Khanate, Boris et al, sometimes stoner metal. These are also pointless genre labels made up by judging the bands on their FANS; "Because stoners like them, they must be stoner metal.". Bs, Down are not stoner metal, just because stoners like them. They're a heavy metal band, that's it.
Silverstein, I never said anything about the music of "grindcore" or "metalcore", I simply said I don't recognise the labels. They're false.
Try reading my posts please.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Rapcore, Rage Against the Machine, rapcore. Never heard a funnier, more credibility-erasing comment in my life. You seriously just started adding words onto the ends of genres, you even put a question mark next to "'core", see? You don't even know why you're using it.
You just set a new standard there. What a pretentious, wannabe know-nothing you are. "I know what I'm doing", actually the funniest thing I've read today.
Wow. You really seem ignorant of the many uses of question marks. He could've meant that he wasn't sure if "core" should be added to the end of rap, which I'm pretty sure he was.
FYI, I posted because I saw how much you've been bashing my friend, and I decided to defend him. Don't drag me into this argument, for even though I love music, I don't know jack about its genres.
Fans refer to Horse The Band as Nintendocore. Just like fans refer to 'Sunn0' as 'Doom Metal'
so basically we are debating about your opinion. Your opinion that you do not recognize certain genres and labels. THAT being an opinion, means there's no fact behind your argument, you lose. Grindcore and Metalcore are recognized. so YOU betta Recognize YO WORD OF MOUFFFF lol
...I'll tell you one thing, i didnt make up any genres and labels alright.
Of what, you making yourself look stupid? See: Any post you've made thus far.
We both know that they weren't jokes, though, don't we? We both know, and can see as much from your comment, that you said something very explicitly and then changed your tune.
I am right on this particular subject. How does that equate to me thinking I know everything? I know what I need to know to be right in this debate.
It doesn't matter if the world is against me (it isn't, by the way), the opposite, infact. If a million Britney Spears fans argued against you, just you, that she was a better guitarist than Jimi Hendrix, would they be right? No, because they're actually wrong. Why? Because of fact.
Immersion a.k.a loving something a lot, and getting really into it. Yes, that's what I said.
I've done both to massive extremes, which is why I'm making you look stupid in this thread, which is why you are the one who has no other debate besides "I've immersed myself in it." and "The world is against you.".
Another MySpace teen comment. "If you'd known, you'd not say that", well guess what? I do, and I am.
Puts your little theory out the window.
Which is basically just really heavy metal that people like to get high to.
Why does it need a new genre because of what people do when they listen to it? I like riding a bike to Audioslave, Audioslave must be Biking Rock.
Okay, I want you to read my post again, but this time, use those reading glasses.
Now, this isn't my domain, but here's my impression.
Radiohead is probably Avant-Garde Alternative Rock (AC, I swear to God, if you try to bash me for using Avant-Garde as a label... seriously, I know what I'm doing)
RATM is probably a blend of Rap(core?), Funk-oriented Metal, and Hard Rock.
The Smiths, I'd say are Alternative Pop Rock.
That's at least my impression of their styles.
AC, I wouldn't be talking about credibility, if I were you. From what I see, you're trying to use every little thing against me. I even put a disclaimer to show that I wasn't the most credible source, that it was just my impression from what I've heard. I did that so you wouldn't make an ass of yourself and do this. But you did. That really tells a lot about your character, man.
Oh, and KingDubya's right. Since I wasn't the most experienced in that field, because I wasn't sure if people would consider that Rapcore or not. Tell me, AC... Do you feel threatened by me? Hold on, I'll answer for you: "Of course, I don't you nincompoop! You should feel threatened by me! I'm right and you're wrong! Hawthorne Heights is 100% metal and deep down inside, you know it! You have no credibility whatsoever! At least, I use my wit to give myself the illusion that I know what I'm doing! HAHAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO STUPID, BARDIEL13!"
And if you're to dense to realize it, that's my parody of you. I don't literally expect you to write that, but I wouldn't have been the least surprise if you did.
I know you're not credible, haha. Tell me something I don't know, like how you believe you know anything.
A self-hating parody, very telling. Even when you attempt to diss me you end up dissing yourself.
Moving on, there's a simple solution isn't there? If you can't define it, don't use it. It's that simple. Don't speak what you can't spell, heard that saying?
I don't feel threatened by you, Bardiel. You're providing nothing more for me than a post count and humourous reading material. I don't feel threatened by anyone when it comes to music, because I know enough. Unlike you I'm secure in my knowledge, I can back up what I say.
You're the one going around telling yourself that you've immersed yourself in metal, and therefore know what you're talking about. Who are you trying to convince, me or you?
I don't believe that the knowledge of anything other than musical genres applies in this debate, so it wouldn't matter if Bardiel didn't know anything except for musical genres.
Apparently, AC, you seem to come from a society where only a single person's opinion matters and if anyone speaks out against you, you feel the need to defend your opinion, despite how wrong/right it may or may not be.
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