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Creshosk
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Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't hate superman but to say superman was 100% original would be a lie. Anyone hear of Gladiator? Predates superman by a couple of years. Someone gets a cookie if they can find the similarities between Gladiators real name and Kal-El/Clark Kent. Your gonna be shocked lol.

Oh god.. youRE talking about Kallark of Marvel whom first appeared in X-Men #107 in 1977?

How the hell does a character created in 1977 predate one created in 1938?

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Oh god.. youRE talking about Kallark of Marvel whom first appeared in X-Men #107 in 1977?

How the hell does a character created in 1977 predate one created in 1938?

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Cresh, you stupidface

, 1977 predates 1938 in many ways, I could list them, but you couldn't even begin to understand my bullshit.

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At first I assumed he meant the character from The Gladiator novel, who is believed to have inspired Superman. Though the only thing in common they have is Superhuman strength and durability. The novel Gladiator was given his powers by his mother being injected with a serum while he was in her womb.

And really now that novel didn't invent Super strength it's been around for thousands of years in strength the Character in the novel also didn't wear a costume or fight crime.

Then he said the name thing. Except his name is Hugo Danner. Not that close to Kal EL.

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't hate superman but to say superman was 100% original would be a lie. Anyone hear of Gladiator? Predates superman by a couple of years. Someone gets a cookie if they can find the similarities between Gladiators real name and Kal-El/Clark Kent. Your gonna be shocked lol.

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Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't hate superman but to say superman was 100% original would be a lie. Anyone hear of Gladiator? Predates superman by a couple of years. Someone gets a cookie if they can find the similarities between Gladiators real name and Kal-El/Clark Kent. Your gonna be shocked lol.

So 1977 is before 1938?

Superman

Gladiator

Please just rethink your opinion.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Feron
I don't hate superman but to say superman was 100% original would be a lie. Anyone hear of Gladiator? Predates superman by a couple of years. Someone gets a cookie if they can find the similarities between Gladiators real name and Kal-El/Clark Kent. Your gonna be shocked lol.

Completely agree.

Also, in the Wiki link someone posted, it says this:
"Gladiator's first appearance is often said to have been in X-Men, vol. 1, #107, however, this is not true. He actually appears in "Awesome Comics" vol. 1, issue number 2 in 1931. Marvel adopted the character when they were working on X-Men, and didn't put it out there, as the comic company they got the character from went under, and thought they could just take him as he was open at the time. They had a long legal dispute with DC about it (as DC wanted him, so no other company would have anyone predating Superman), and in the end, Marvel got him in 1976, and starred him in his first appearance back in 1977. It is an often forgotten fact, that even Marvel itself seems to want to forget."

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Completely agree.

Also, in the Wiki link someone posted, it says this:
"Gladiator's first appearance is often said to have been in X-Men, vol. 1, #107, however, this is not true. He actually appears in "Awesome Comics" vol. 1, issue number 2 in 1931. Marvel adopted the character when they were working on X-Men, and didn't put it out there, as the comic company they got the character from went under, and thought they could just take him as he was open at the time. They had a long legal dispute with DC about it (as DC wanted him, so no other company would have anyone predating Superman), and in the end, Marvel got him in 1976, and starred him in his first appearance back in 1977. It is an often forgotten fact, that even Marvel itself seems to want to forget."

According to Wiki, Jubilee is an omega level mutant.

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As referenced by Emma Frost while training in Generation X, Jubilee has the untapped potential to detonate matter at a sub-atomic level, which in theory is the equivalent of a fusion bomb. Her moral stance on taking a life was observed by Emma during the Phalanx Covenant when Jubilee explained her fear of killing someone should her powers ever flare up again as they did during the Acts of Vengeance storyline in Uncanny X-Men. Emma Frost stated that Jubilee had unlimited potential and was one of the most powerful mutants she had ever encountered.

So got any proof to back up this wiki claim?

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Ya but, Wiki stated an actual comic appearance, not a statement. Why should I get proof to back up proof?

And I didn't even bring up the Wiki bio... someone else did... I just pointed out something in the bio that contradicted their claims...

And I edited it...

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The term is 'Homage' not 'Rip-off'.

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I think that Goku is just another cheap copy of Superman. For one both their world have been destroyed, then they had people come to them who also from the same planet their were(Raddits, Napa, Vegeta)(Zod, supergirl, Superboy).
I think Goku is rip off and a copy for Chinese, and Japanese people.(No offence to them tho)

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Originally posted by Badabing
So 1977 is before 1938?
Superman

Gladiator

Please just rethink your opinion.

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After posting those durs and pics, he gets proof pwned! laughing out loud

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Rip-off? No. Inspired? Yes.

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goku is japanese that turns blond with fire aura around his body or giant gorilla monkey
super is an american guy who turns weak with green stones

goku wears karate kimono like ninja attire (without the hood)
super wears american flag colors and wears underwear outside the pants

goku is a ripoff of werewolf because whenever goku looks at the full moon, he turns into a beast. same with werewolf

goku has a family
super is lonely

goku has laser commin out of his hands that blow stuff up
super has laser commin out of his eyes that makes stuff red coal hot

goku died multiple times and revived multiple times
super died 1 time and permanently dead

goku take 30 episodes to kill an enemy
super takes 1 episode to kill an enemy

the list goes on and on

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Superman has never actually "died".

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He died in Obsidian Age even if he never died in his fight with Doomsday.

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Originally posted by dukemuken
goku is japanese that turns blond with fire aura around his body or giant gorilla monkey
super is an american guy who turns weak with green stones

goku wears karate kimono like ninja attire (without the hood)
super wears american flag colors and wears underwear outside the pants

goku is a ripoff of werewolf because whenever goku looks at the full moon, he turns into a beast. same with werewolf

goku has a family
super is lonely

goku has laser commin out of his hands that blow stuff up
super has laser commin out of his eyes that makes stuff red coal hot

goku died multiple times and revived multiple times
super died 1 time and permanently dead

goku take 30 episodes to kill an enemy
super takes 1 episode to kill an enemy

the list goes on and on

Its easy to find differences in anything. Although if you look on the similarities they have then its you can guess its a copy version with a few changes.

For example
Both lost their home planets
raised my old people
became heroes
both fought androids(16&17/Metallo)
Both have families that came from same planet(vegeta, Supergirl)
Both have enemies who destroyed their home planet (Braniac, and freeza)

I can go on and on., but its pointless

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Gokou was a rip-off of the Journey to the West legend..he just became a nice homage to Superman. DB was extremely different. DBZ just added things to make him similar.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by dukemuken
goku is japanese that turns blond with fire aura around his body or giant gorilla monkey
super is an american guy who turns weak with green stones

goku wears karate kimono like ninja attire (without the hood)
super wears american flag colors and wears underwear outside the pants

goku is a ripoff of werewolf because whenever goku looks at the full moon, he turns into a beast. same with werewolf

goku has a family
super is lonely

goku has laser commin out of his hands that blow stuff up
super has laser commin out of his eyes that makes stuff red coal hot

goku died multiple times and revived multiple times
super died 1 time and permanently dead

goku take 30 episodes to kill an enemy
super takes 1 episode to kill an enemy

the list goes on and on

Please do go on. I'd love to hear what someone who only knows the basics, and even gets some of those screwed up, thinks about superman.

American flag colors? Blue Red and YELLOW?

Permenantly dead? Guess that's why he's alive.

Only red coal hot? Guess that's why the comics say that its off the charts when they can measure stars.

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How did I miss that? And since when is Supes lonely since he has a wife? And doesn't he have a kid or something now also?

And it takes Superman 1 episode to kill an enemy?

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He has an adopted son in the current continuity

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by dukemuken
goku is japanese that turns blond with fire aura around his body or giant gorilla monkey
super is an american guy who turns weak with green stones

goku wears karate kimono like ninja attire (without the hood)
super wears american flag colors and wears underwear outside the pants

goku is a ripoff of werewolf because whenever goku looks at the full moon, he turns into a beast. same with werewolf

goku has a family
super is lonely

goku has laser commin out of his hands that blow stuff up
super has laser commin out of his eyes that makes stuff red coal hot

goku died multiple times and revived multiple times
super died 1 time and permanently dead

goku take 30 episodes to kill an enemy
super takes 1 episode to kill an enemy

the list goes on and on

lol @ Superman perma dead.