and I don't think that using the shield to cut through something has much to do with strength than is does technique... namor has taken that shield and beamed hank pym in the head with it.. it just ricocheted off.... like i said idiot proof.. most things manufactured by the military are.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Last edited by jinzin on Jul 26th, 2006 at 07:18 AM
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Look the thing you got to understand about cap is that eventhough people say that he is peak human hes not, he is superhuman.
I mean lets take Hawkeye for example how many times have you seen him shoot guns and weapons out of multiple attackers. They will tell you that Hawkeye has no powers but to do what he does you need superhuman skill.
In the marvel universe extremely talented and peak human is just another word for superhuman.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
To be quite honest if you have examples in the marval universe of Cap giving spidey a good fight I dont know why you guys are still arguing. It seems some people just cant take it.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
See, this right here makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Precog. He knows an attack is coming before it comes. He knows what it will be and where it will POTENTIALLY land so he can avoid it in time.
Other, far slower opponents using his precog against him? What the hell? Does Spidey only predict one move every Thirty seconds now?
His Spider-Sense would allow him to know each and every attack thrown his way before it occurs, thus knowing the set-up attack and then the real attack. Whatever Cap ties to set up, Spidey will already know what it is.
Cap may have planned 2 steps ahead of Spidey, but Spidey has read said plans ahead of time.
Spidey really should be able to stand there and take punches to the face from Cap all day long.
I'm reminded of when much-younger Spider-Man FLICKED Walrus-Man (or whatever his name was) in the face and knocked him out. And, as lame as he was, Walrus-Man did have a degree of superhuman strength and durability.
Now imagine a full-out, non-held back punch.
Why is Spidey's super strength not applicable to Cap?
By the way, I know you're arguing Spider-Man, but I just felt compelled to ask this anyway.
Who is faster?
Spider-Man
Who is stronger?
Spider-Man
Who is more agile?
Spider-Man
Who is more durable?
Spider-Man
Who heals faster?
Spider-Man
Who has better reflexes?
Spider-Man
Who is precognitive?
Spider-Man
Who is more intelligent?
Spider-Man
Who has a long range attack that can immobilise their opponent?
Spider-Man
Who has a fighting style based on super-strength, -speed, -reflexes, -agility and precognition?
Spider-Man
Why is this up for debate? I know jinzin hates Spider-Man so of course he'll argue for Cap but how can anyone seriously think Cap has what it takes. Everything Cap can do Spidey can do at least 10x better. Spider-Man trumps him in every physical category 'cept for stamina, and with Spider-Man's strength and speed thats a non-factor. Look how easily he handled Cap in CW3 if you want any indication of how the fight would go
So let's suppose that what you say is true. Put simply, Cap's shield is a very, very strong weapon.
What's stopping Spider-Man from grabbing it out of the air, and using it against Cap? Surely, even if it doesn't "slice" through him, it's going to leave a damn big bruise, and more realistically, drop him. After all, the shield's gone through Ultron; hurting Cap isn't out of its abilities, no?
And don't say Spidey would get hit by it. I can maybe give you a couple punches when he and Cap are in close, but by the time Cap releases that shield, Spidey has already dodged the next couple attacks.
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"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Jul 26th, 2006 07:15 AM
Seen it and I seriously hope you don't consider that a "feat" usable in a versus thread....
