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dock ock is lame.


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In your opinion. Which is thankfully a minority one wink

But Hugh Jackman's Wolverine was lame. He wasn't even the little short man that Wolverine is big grin

Ian McKellan and Patrick Stewart are the ones that make the X-Men movies watchable.


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All the fight scenes in Spider-Man 2 were breathtaking. Best action scenes ever in a comic book movie. Bar none.

I liked Norman Osborn's scenes in Spider-Man 1. But I hated the Green Goblin because of the costume. He looked too silly to take seriously.

Doctor Octopus was awesome though. Great villain.

Spider-Man needs more web swinging scenes in these movies. Not nearly enough of them. He looks great when web swinging.

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Originally posted by IceDragon
dock ock is lame.


how can u say that... dock ock is one of the "big 3" i mean he aint my fav but i wouldnt call him lame


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Need you ask spence?? This is the guy going around saying gay Joker.


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lol yea.. i see


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What was your least favorite scene in each movie??

In SM-1, mine was the Goblin singing itsy bitsy spider. Arghhhhhhh too cheesey. Villains don't sing.

In SM-2, it was chocolate cake girl scene. Boring scene.


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spiderman - macy gray's voice lol. gg singing was stupid
spiderman 2 - after the b-day party mj and peter talking.. come on we saw this in spidey 1 lol. and chocolate cake girl was strange too


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Ok am i strange for wanting to sing along with the goblin when he was singing?

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Lets see,for MAN-SPIDER ONE
the wrestling scene was my favorite-those were hot looking babes.LOL.
The rain scene when we get to look at Mary Janes bosom.LOL
The mirror scene with Dafoe talking to himself.
The Oscorp Building.Those effects were amazing.
oh and the opening beginning credits.

for MAN-SPIDER TWO.

Bank fight between spidey and ock.
clock tower and train scene with doc and spidey were easily the best parts in the movie.Doc ock was easily the best thing about the movie.
Next,Ocks demonstration scene.
scene of peter throwing his mask on the trash can,true to the spirit of the comic.
and lastly,the scenes of Mary Jane being mad at pete because he was out being spidey.true to the comic and right from the comicbooks.


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dock ock is lame.


The Doc Ock in MAN-SPIDER TWO was lame,thats for sure,they made him into Mr Nice guy at the end,that really sucked,plus he was an arrogant prick before the accident in the comics and not mr nice guy like they made him out to be which also was lame,so no question the doc ock from the movie was lame but the doc ock from the comics is awesome.


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That's something I've always wanted in a Marvel movie, the interaction of characters, or at least referencing.

Half the Marvel world lives in New York City, as if they'd not bump into each other.

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All the fight scenes in Spider-Man 2 were breathtaking. Best action scenes ever in a comic book movie. Bar none.


Bit of a claim, in my opinion.

I think the very first night club scene in Blade is very underrated and, though short, I loved Hulk fighting the tanks/choppers.

Spidey Vs Ock on the train was brilliant, I was sitting there thinking "Spider-Man would probably do this..." and he did it. Ock's tentacles looked really lethal, which is something I do believe they improved on from the comics, though I was never a fan of Doc Ock, I liked the idea of Doc Ock, I just never liked the execution. He never felt menacing to me, the movie one did.

Best scenes from 1: The legendary M.J scenes (School dining hall/Alley), Spidey getting used to his powers, "You're not Superman, you know.", anything with Jameson.

Best scenes from 2: Train fight, pizza delivery, anything with Jameson.

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In SM-1, mine was the Goblin singing itsy bitsy spider. Arghhhhhhh too cheesey. Villains don't sing.


Venom singing Strangers in the Night was classic, come on.

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Venom singing Strangers in the Night was classic, come on.

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That's ok in the comics, because it's words on a page. Much like most of the character costumes look good in the comics but would be awful on screen. To actually hear the characters sing is something totally different. And Goblin sounded cheesy as hell IMO.

I don't think many people want to see Venom burst into song in SM-3.


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the doc ock from the comics is awesome.


Yes he is. Only he could make 5 other super powered villains his b1tches and then betray them:


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That's ok in the comics, because it's words on a page. Much like most of the character costumes look good in the comics but would be awful on screen. To actually hear the characters sing is something totally different. And Goblin sounded cheesy as hell IMO.

I don't think many people want to see Venom burst into song in SM-3.


I think Goblin singing wouldn't have been as cheesey if it wasn't that song, itsy bitsy spider. It was so contrived.

Manic villains, sure. I could see Carnage making fun of someone, Joker or whatever, Goblin has a bit of that for me...but I agree that particular scene was...hmm, didn't like it.

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I liked the idea of Doc Ock, I just never liked the execution. He never felt menacing to me, the movie one did.


Really??

There was not much of a difference between them in terms of villainous behaviour. Molina nailed all the character traits of the comic character. They just made him slightly more sympathetic in the movie.

And his reactor of doom plot was very on par with comic Ock, who is always coming up with lethal scientific schemes like that. Usually ones that threaten the city or even the world on occasion.

But you're right about the movie tentacles, best version of his tentacles EVER!!!


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I think Goblin singing wouldn't have been as cheesey if it wasn't that song, itsy bitsy spider. It was so contrived.

Manic villains, sure. I could see Carnage making fun of someone, Joker or whatever, Goblin has a bit of that for me...but I agree that particular scene was...hmm, didn't like it.

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I really don't think Norman's Goblin is the singing type. I don't think he even sang in the comics.

Joker and Carnage are definitely the type of villains to do that. They have a whacky brand of craziness like that. Particularly Joker.


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Really??

There was not much of a difference between them in terms of villainous behaviour. Molina nailed all the character traits of the comic character. They just made him slightly more sympathetic in the movie.

And his reactor of doom plot was very on par with comic Ock, who is always coming up with lethal scientific schemes like that. Usually ones that threaten the city or even the world on occasion.

But you're right about the movie tentacles, best version of his tentacles EVER!!!


I guess if you've always imagined him as a vicious villain, then it works. I never really liked him, I always thought he was just a guy who fought Spider-Man, but could have been better.

The thing that made him so formidable to me, in the movie, was the vicious metal tentacles. In the comics they look to plastic, and too short. As if you could dodge them or take hits and survive.

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Yes he is. Only he could make 5 other super powered villains his b1tches and then betray them:


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Dr. Doom does it to everyone on a daily basis, and not just crones.

People like Galactus and The Beyonder. Then again, it's not fair to compare villains to Doom.

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