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The wonder of google tells me that both the Mayan and Aztec calanders end on the same day, it also tells me that Moctezuma II, thinking Cortés to be the returning god Quetzalcoatl, thought that Cortes would spell the end of the Aztec empire, and he was right...


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I doubt that's factual, the Aztecs wern't that good at Astronomy, in fact the only impressive thing from them was their Architecture and the such. They didn't even have a standing army

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I think we need to restart this in the History Forum,


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Yes Mr. Parker.

These people "The Controllers" are obsessed with Order.

They want to introduce their New World Order so badly, that they are willing to create Chaos in order to make sure that it gets established.

What these people really despise is Chaos though. They only use it to restore their power over the people when things get out of hand.

When people are allowed to think for themselves, and to speak freely and act however they want to, that allows for chaotic behavior. The "Controllers" hate chaotic behavior. They want everything and everyone to be Controlled and to be put into Order.

Whats going on right now in the Middle East is a perfect example of how they operate. They are going to create their "Order of out Chaos" process over there. Right now things are chaotic over there. But what they plan to have is an Obedient Middle East when this great War is all over. Thats right. A completely Obedient Middle East under their New World Order. This is what they are hoping for. And they will spend however much money they need to and allow for hundreds of thousand of people to die in the process. As long as it results in Order at the end of it all.

Thats how sick this whole thing is going to be if we allow them to implement the NWO.

It means that freedoms and liberties will mean nothing. The only thing that will matter to these bastards is that the World is controlled in an "Orderly" fashion.

These people don't think like your every day common criminal. They don't operate sporaticly or chaoticly. They are so obsessed with Order that they even implement their strategies in an orderly way, by executing major events on certain days of the year. The days of which are symbolic and meaningful only to the Controllers.

These people are Satanic in nature. They are ritualistic to a fault. They sometimes wait years to kill a person and plan the entire thing out so that it fits in with their rituals and that it's all done in Order.

Ultimately, Bush doesn't give a damn about "freedom" and "liberty" like he says he does on TV. No....what he cares about is Order. And that goes for the rest of the "Controllers" who belong to these sick Satanic societies and who operate behind the scenes in extremely powerful positions around the World so that they can all make sure that when the time is right, they will declare Martial Law on the citizens of the World, and Implement their New World Order accordingly.

It's so simple how they operate. But it amazes me how many people haven't figured out their motives yet. And how many people are still blind to the fact that there is no such thing as coincidence. And that everything happens for a reason. And that whenever money is the power source behind something, such as a major war or conflict, that it can always be traced back somewhere...and I guarantee you...that in all cases of wars that we have had within the last few centuries, that when you trace the money behind them back to it's original roots, you will find the trail that leads directly back to these Controllers.


yeah I know.it amazes me as well the ignorance of people here like the ones who keep swallowing the garbage from the 9-11 commission that they were told.and yeah it all goes back to the contollers who start these wars because there is immense money to be gained by them.


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With this information in mind, we need to look at the recent figureheads who have "run" this country: George Bush Sr., and Bill Clinton. Elder Bush was the head of the CIA from 1975-76 and his link with this organization dates back to the late 1950's or early 1960's. His Zapata offshore oil rigs have also been linked to the transfer of narcotics shipments from South America to the United States.

When the biggest drug smuggler in American history (Barry Seal) was killed by a volley of gunfire, guess whose private phone number was found in his wallet? George Bush Sr's! As head of the CIA, do you really think he didn't know what was going on? C'mon!

As for Bill Clinton, his link to the Mena Airport in Arkansas is so strong that it would be easy to graduate from turning a blind eye at the state level to a national scale. Now we need to look at our current President -- George W. Bush. Considering who his father is and his own cocaine/party past, do you think there's any possibility that he's ignorant of what the Secret Team is doing? Fat chance.


wow thanks for posting this.I think I had heard that as well somewhere that Bush SR's private phone number was found in Seals wallet but i forgot about it.what amazes me is the ginorance of some people who thought Reagan was a good president.Thats how the oliver north Iran contra scandal came public was because Seal while flying narcotics into Nicaragua,his plane was shot down and found full of drugs.Unlike North he was gunned down so he wasnt wround to testify.But the IRAN CONTRA scandal actually involved 3 count thme "3" presidents. The Iran contra scandal went on during the early to mid 80's during Reagans administration.The CIA routinely smuggled guns out of the states to the contras in exchange for drugs during Reagans presidency.does anybody here honestly believe the that the CIA did all this under the nose of reagan without his knowledge that it was going on? and as vice president under Reagan,George Bush sr being the vice president and former CIA director himself,you just know he was involved in it as well.But it gets even better than that.The CIA also used a small airport in MENA ARKANSAS to smuggle in those drugs from the contras into the states in arkansas Barry Seal of course was the pilot in all of these drug smuggling operations that went on.and this all went under the nose of the future to be president who at that time in the early 80's was the governor of arkansas Bill Clinton.all of that went on constantly to the knowledge of Clinton, Bush and Reagan.It seems that it is bad luck to be a friend of clinton because Clintons-F.O.B'S-FRIENDS OF BILL CLINTON,the ones that knew about his dirty scandals of arkansas while governor,they have all died under vey mysterious circumstances whne they spoke out against clinton or were ready to tell something to the media when they claimed they had knowledge.Clinton like Bush,seems to have some shadow connections to the CIA and has a long history of ties to Bush and the CIA.


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Well Mr. Parker I must say that it appears that you have definately done your homework on this subject. =)

Thanks for expanding that point even further.


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Parker what about the connection between the CIA and the Vatican, Jordan maxwell says the Vatican has long supported Nazi's moving them to south America where catholicism is dominate. I heard the founder of the CIA was one of hitlers top men.


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Whats up Emp.

Wasn't sure if you were using this forum or not.


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Some people say, "Since everyone knows that the CIA is the biggest drug dealer in the World, why not just legalize drugs."? The answer is this: We can't legalize drugs because there is too much of a MACHINE associated with it. Think about how many people LEGITIMATELY make their livings off of drugs -- drug companies, pharmacists, people in the court system, many corrupt police officers, many corrupt officials in the DEA, corrupt parole officers, investigators, prisons (which have been at one time or another the largest growth industry in the United States), as well as corrupt Laywers. It's immense! So once again, drugs = money.


Henry Kissinger said to Bob Woodward at the Washington Post:

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."



That statement doesn't directly have anything to do with drugs, but it does reflect the amount of contempt the World leaders (Controllers) have for us. If Kissinger can talk negatively about the military, just think how he sees us -- mere "peasants"!

This comment leads to the Controllers use of drugs as a tool against it's own citizenry. Consider, if you will, drugs as a method to undermine the efforts of those who would potentially be "trouble".

During the late 1960's, the protest movement became such a threat to the Controllers that they seriously thought it would crumble their house of cards. So, what did they do? Most everyone knows about how prevalent marijuana use was during the 1960's. But toward the end of that decade and into the early 1970's, harder, more dangerous drugs began hitting the scene, especially in one of the hotbeds of fissent - Haight-Ashbury.


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In the span of a few years, the scene went from loving "Flower Children" to speed freaks, junkies and con men all strung-out and looking for an easy buck.

Another example is the Black protesters who wanted equal rights. Realizing that these folks were serious about wanting change, what happened? The controllers began shipping heroin out of the Golden Triangle in the early 70's and pumping it into the inner cities, right where the protesters lived. Soon we had our first big wave of heroin use in the United States in the early-to-mid 1970's, and the Cause quietly faded away. And do people really think it was all just "coincidence"?

Of course drugs weren't the only factor in the demise of these movements, but it was a definate contributor.

Another example concerns the English Punk Rock movement of the mid-late 1970's. At that time the economic situation in Great Britain was abysmal. Scores of angry teenagers were politically mobilized by a new musical craze - Punk Rock. Through the Sex Pistols, Clash, Generation X, Siousxie Sioux and the Banshees and others, this movement actually became dangerous to the English Elite.

To counter it, Johnny Thunders, ex-New York Dolls guitarist and quite possibly the most notorious junkie in rock'n'roll history (which is saying alot) and Nancy Spungen (Sid Vicious's girlfriend who was stabbed to death under suspicious circumstances) traveled to England. Thunders joined the Sex Pistols for a total death drag tour, while Nancy set her sights on (and landed) poor old Sid. Within months, as Johnny Thunders bragged, every Punk Rocker in England was a junkie.

Johnny and Nancy, neither of whom had two pennies to rub together, somehow still managed to have unlimited access to smack and turned everyone onto it whom they met. Kinda makes you wonder how they were able to afford it all huh? Within less than two years, the Pistols disbanded, Nancy and Sid were dead, and Punk Rock fizzled into New Wave Music, which was safer, more sanitary, and much more focused on money than revolution.


It's a perfect Hegelian Dialectic at work:


Thesis: dangerous, political Punk Rock.

Anti-thesis: destructive, readily available heroin.

Synthesis: antiseptic, less threatening New Wave music.


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Whats up Emp.

Wasn't sure if you were using this forum or not.


I didn't know it was there.


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And then of course we have the marijuana farmers in the hills of Kentucky, West Virginia, and the surrounding areas. These folks are mostly dirt-poor locals who eke out a few extra bucks a year by growing weed up in the hill country. The Government stumbled on this phenomenon a few years ago, and realizing they had competition, decided that they'd put an end to the marijuana growers.

Here's what happened. The DEA spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to eradicate little thousand-dollar patches way up in the hills of "Deliverance" country. They'd bring in agents, helicopters, and hi-tech heat-sensing equipment just to mess with these dirt farmers.

But those guys in Kentucky are a resilient bunch, so they kept moving deeper and deeper into the woods, setting up more intricate traps and tip-off devices. Realizing that they'd never eradicate the marijuana crops, the Government took a more novel approach.

Rather than fighting fair, the Feds flooded the backwoods market with Oxycontin (nicknamed "Hillbilly Heroin"). It seems like every partier and pharmacist in the state had a 'script for this stuff. These guys were getting so high on Oxycontin, that they didn't care about marijuana any more. This ended the competition for our Government, and at the same time they even made money off of the pharmaceutical drugs.

Whenever you view the subject of drugs in relation to Governments, just remember, their fingers are not just dirty, they're filthy.


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Yes, as hard as it is to believe for many people, one of the CIA's primary roles is to support the United States economy by bringing illegal drugs into this country. How can this be, you ask? Well, one of the CIA's main responsibilities is to provide much needed cash flow banks and stock trading houses. If you find this relationship hard to swallow, then why did six of the first seven CIA directors come directly from Wall Street, with many others having strong ties to the banking community? What does being an Intelligence director have to do with high-finance? The answer can be found with George Bush, Sr. His father, Prescott, was a financial director for the Brown Brothers Harriman subsidary (Union Banking Company) that directly financed Hitler before and during World War 2 by laundering money for the Nazi War Machine!

But lets get back to the point here, because in a January, 2001 report, it was disclosed that $1.5 trillion dollars a year is laundered through the World's banking system, and that approximately $500-600 (about 1/3) comes from the drug trade. The CIA's role, then, is to make sure that as much drug money as possible comes into our economy.

Illegal drug trafficking is the fastest growing industry in America, and the truth is that the growth of many multi-national companies and international banks was financed through the sale of illegal drugs. And who's the leader in laundering this narcotics money? American banks. To support this claim, Mike Ruppert, a former investigator for the Los Angeles Police Department, has reference to a survey conducted with the top business and banking leaders of America. 99 out of 100 of these corporate leaders said that it would be better to keep $500 billion a year of laundered money going through the system than it would be to stop the flow of illegal drugs into our country. For, if we stopped laundering this money, mutual funds would plummet, the stock market would crash, and any possibility of paying off our national debt would be futile (as it already is). We are, regrettably, addicted to drug profiterring in this country.


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Nuclear winter I didn't know you went a round different forums posting your info, good job.

I've seen you in 8 forums, as nuclear winter or truth bringer.


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Yeah I do a lot of research on Clinton.dont know if you live in the states or not but here in the states you can get a book at most librarys about clinton called THE CLINTON CHRONICLES. after watching it,clinton will make you sick.a couple of really good books I highly recommend that documents all this about Clinton is THE SECRET LIFE OF BILL CLINTON .I forget the exact name of the author but he is british journalist and he did some amazing work when investigating this interviewing countless of sources of people connected to clinton or knew these people that knew clinton.another really good one that talks about clintons connections to the CIA is PARTNERS IN POWER.a friend of mine recommended it to me because the author of the book roger morris wrote a very good well written book about Nixon as well that was highly praised and he served under Nixons staff of national security and resigned over his disgust over Nixons policy of the vietnam war.oh and another really good book to read about Clinton and how he abused his office to read is UNLIMITED ACCESS,the author of that book Gary aldrich served as FBI Liason to the white house dating all the way back to JFK'S administration.

He goes into that book on how clinton always had partys at the white house sniffing cocaine which he did constantly at the governors mansion in arkansas as well.he resigned under clinton and then wrote that book.people have tried to discredit him saying none of it is true but to write a book like that accusing clinton of things like that,he could get sued for libel by clinton if none of that is true but clinton wont sue him because he knows its true and aldrich can bring forth evidence of it.In the book THE SECRET LIFE OF BILL CLINTON the author of it goes into detail that as governor,he pardoned a close friend of his convicted drug dealer dan lassiter from prison.

Lassiter had spent a couple years in prison before clinton pardoned him and how that he also pardoned his brother roger clinton a friend of Lassiters.he talks in that book about witnesses that went under oath who testified that they were at parties with Lassiter and the clintons. there is even a video out that I have seen in the clinton chronicles where Roger Clinton is recorded by an undercover investigater snorint cocaine and saying-you got anymore of this stuff,I want to get some for my brother.he has a nose like a vacume.several arkansas state troopers have come forward and testified that they would drive clinton to secreat places and be on the look out for oncoming cars while he had sex with all these women in their patrol cars and that they would even drive these women to the governors mansion so he could have sex with them. Plus some arkansas state troopers and witnesses were flown into arkansas to testify against Bill Clinton with knowledge they had about all these deaths that he is behind but congress didnt even call them to testify even after they were flown in.Yeah I do a lot of research on Clinton because I have encountered a lot of idiots out there in my REAL life off the net who they have no problem believeing me about Bush and that he wanted 9-11 to happen,but they are extremely ignorant about Clinton,that he isnt that much better than Bush.go figure.I guess they dont want to believe it abotu Clinton because of his good looks I guess. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Nuclear winter I didn't know you went a round different forums posting your info, good job.

I've seen you in 8 forums, as nuclear winter or truth bringer.


The more the merrier. =) lol.

One thing I really want to know is....who in the hell are these people that stand behind George Bush and other politicians on tv when they are making their speeches and who appear to be extremely happy and ready to do whatever is necessary to please "their politician". lol.

I mean really. I always watch the people in the backround when these guys are making their pre-written speeches which were usually written by someone else.

This one guy was just nodding his head and smiling as Joe Liberman was doin his thing on the mic. I wouldn't have been suprised if druel was falling out of the dudes mouth because he looked so psyched out and happy that good ol Liberman was running his mouth off and "spittin his lit" at the podium. As if it was the Second Coming or something.

It cracks me up inside. I mean really....don't these people know the truth? And don't they work? And if not.....why the hell would they spend their time clapping their hands together for hours while these politicians literally lie through their teeth and swindle these people out of their money!! It's fricken ridiculous.

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Why do people think that the American Government became so obsessed with Afghanistan, a remote, desolate country? To find an answer, you have to see things the way that our Government does. Before 1980, Afghanistan produced 0% of the World's opium. But then the CIA moved in, and by 1986 they were producing 40% of the World's heroin supply. By 1999, they were churning out 3,200 TONS of heroin a year -- which is nearly 80% of the total market supply.

But then something happened. The Taliban rose to power, and by 2000 they had destroyed nearly all of the opium fields. Production dropped from 3,000+ tons to only 185 tons, a 94% reduction! This enormous drop in revenue subsequently hurt not only the CIA's Black Budget projects, but also the free-flow of laundered money in and out of the Controller's banks. These powerful folks didn't like this turn of events (and the easy money being taken out of their pockets). So, to retaliate, we went to war with them, and you all know the rest of the story.

I mean, come on people. Didn't anyone think to themselves why all of the sudden our economy turned to Shi! and then all of the sudden curious George Bush announced that Afghanistan was our enemy? I mean it doesn't take a genious to put the two together. In 2000, the Taliban destroyed the Opium fields in Afghanistan, and in 2000 our economy took a major tailspin for the worst. And in 2001, (after the 9-11 events), George Bush announces that Afghanistan is a country that harbors terrorists (of which it did) but that it was also the country we were going to go to war with. Hmmm...I wonder what the real reason that George Bush picked Afghanistan was....could it have been the opium fields!!!


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After we invaded Afghanistan, the Afghanistan Northern Alliance, backed by the CIA, chased the Taliban out and re-planted all of the opium crops again. Even more horrifying is that while the opium crops were destroyed, the Afghanistan farmers were planting actual FOOD crops such as wheat so that their people could eat. But then the CIA went in, dug-up the wheat, and re-seeded the opium fields. You know, when you think about these actions, it's downright sickening. So now the Afghanistan rebels run the poppy fields, and everything is back to "normal" again (albeit a very dirty, corrupt kind of normal).

So, with this very interesting foundation laid, people can learn even more about these horrible skeems that have been played upon the people of America. They can learn about the truth about many things, including the Bush-Bin Laden family connection just to skim one from the top.

The truth is out there. All people have to do is uncover it.


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Considering how prevalent drug trafficking is in certain political and business circles, we need to ask ourselves why the United States really went to war with Afghanistan. To answer this question, one thing must be made perfectly clear. The Controllers don't go to war over "ideals" such as patriotism, freedom or national sovereignty. Do you know why? It's because these people don't give a damn about those concepts. In fact, they hold them in contempt.

So, why did we really go to war with Afghanistan? Historically, wars have been fought for three main reasons: gold, diamonds, and drugs. As you can tell, drugs are the constant. With that in mind, remember that in 1999, Afghanistan produced 4,600 tons of opium, which was 75% of the World's total supply. The Worlds! Their output accounted for 60% of the entire Afghan economy, and was so prevalent that they even surpassed that of the Golden Triangle.

Large portions of the CIA's "black budgets" are derived from drugs (along with arms and money laundering). Afghanistan was thus a very important piece of the puzzle. As is Iraq. As is the entire Middle East. But of course the Controllers are taking it one step at a time. Again, When the fanatical religious group, the Taliban, came to power in Afghanistan and Opium production came to a halt, the American Government got "pissed" to say the least. As time grew on, Afghanistan was only exporting less than 100 tons of opium (or 1/50th of their previous production), and the Controllers weren't going to stand for that.


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