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abhilegend
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Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
WHAT?? What the hell are you talking about? What ever you just referenced has nothing to do with the Busiek story. WEAK.

Yes, Busiek had Superman say that he has never went all out before his run in Superman.

That means Thor lost to a holding back Superman. How does that makes you feel?

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Yes, Busiek had Superman say that he has never went all out before his run in Superman.

That means Thor lost to a holding back Superman. How does that makes you feel?

Thor held back and Superman barely won. Writer said it could have gone either way without even addressing the magical weakness. Thor wins.

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Did he do anything at that point? Because he has said the same to Demon Druid and Demon Druid again oneshotted him as before.
When did I ever used Drax killing Thanos as an evidence you idiot?

see you can't even get it right now f*cktard. When other posters have used it , you've said it was bullshit.

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abhilegend
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Wut? What are you even talking about?

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? What are you even talking about?

don't even try to pretend. Everybody can plainly see through your shit. They bring up that orion is destined to kill darkseid and you blow it off as bullshit and then turn around not even a day later and post that drax was made to be thanos' silver bullet and that's why could do it.

Also, It's absolutely appalling how you consistently bring up crossovers like they're canon (even when the mods say they aren't) and even ignore the statements of the writers of those crossovers in favor of jacking off superman in front of the rest of us.

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i'm surprised at the results here. the hammer could easily block or absorb the AF. strength, skill are basically equal. MB would be some help, but rarely plays a direct hand in his 1 on 1 battles. i'd lean towards bill here, like i would thor, in a very close match. maybe 5.5/10 for bill.

I'm with you on that leo

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@Darksaint, Bills cyborg body was destroyed at the end of the Stormbreaker mini. He was then resurected into a new body that was equally as powerful as his pld one. He even had a base form. Marvel has continuity issues due to the laziness of its new writers.

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Wut? What are you even talking about?

lmao, playing stupid I see.

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BRB wins the majority, it's close every time

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Thor, Orion, Captain Marvel and Beta Ray Bill are Superman peers when it comes to strength :/

Jun 17th, 2016 03:22 PM

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Thor, Orion, Captain Marvel and Beta Ray Bill are Superman peers when it comes to strength :/

don't tell that to abhi or he'll bring up non canon fights and faulty logic to prove you wrong.

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don't tell that to abhi or he'll bring up non canon fights and faulty logic to prove you wrong.

Well, you could just bring up neutral feats to prove it partially correct.

Thor/BRB don't have anywhere near as impressive lifting feats, planetary body moving feats, or anything else objective. It's not even close, actually.

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don't even try to pretend. Everybody can plainly see through your shit. They bring up that orion is destined to kill darkseid and you blow it off as bullshit and then turn around not even a day later and post that drax was made to be thanos' silver bullet and that's why could do it.

That's just the stupidest
thing I've heard. I've never discarded Orion being fated to kill Darkseid as something unrelated to strength or used Drax killing Thanos as a feat for Drax.

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Also, It's absolutely appalling how you consistently bring up crossovers like they're canon (even when the mods say they aren't) and even ignore the statements of the writers of those crossovers in favor of jacking off superman in front of the rest of us.

Haha, what? Both JLA/Avengers and DC Vs Marvel are canon. They are not usable here but that's not the same as being non canon.

As opposed to marvel fanboys going off on imaginary versions of characters? At least what I'm using is on panel.

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abhilegend
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don't tell that to abhi or he'll bring up non canon fights and faulty logic to prove you wrong.

Alright. Show me where Thor/Bill have enough strength to rip an above top tier being in half while weakened.

Only Captain Marvel is a peer to Superman. Thor certainly isn't.

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Originally posted by deathslash
don't even try to pretend. Everybody can plainly see through your shit. They bring up that orion is destined to kill darkseid and you blow it off as bullshit and then turn around not even a day later and post that drax was made to be thanos' silver bullet and that's why could do it.

Also, It's absolutely appalling how you consistently bring up crossovers like they're canon (even when the mods say they aren't) and even ignore the statements of the writers of those crossovers in favor of jacking off superman in front of the rest of us.

That's what he does. Not a SHRED of integrity, yet some people accept consider him a legit poster simply because he posts a lot of scans. He's the Malcolm X of the House of El and his motto is "By Any Means Necessary."

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Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, Busiek had Superman say that he has never went all out before his run in Superman.

That means Thor lost to a holding back Superman. How does that makes you feel?

Honestly , it makes me feel sorry for you, but only for about 5 seconds or so. You bringing everything on yourself. Thor and Superman were obviously both not going all out or one would have either killed or severely injured the other and neither was the case. So back to the FACT regarding Busiek's words through both Superman and Thor, what occurred was quite clear. You just refuse to accept it because of your zealotry and every board vet knows it.

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Well, you could just bring up neutral feats to prove it partially correct.

Thor/BRB don't have anywhere near as impressive lifting feats, planetary body moving feats, or anything else objective. It's not even close, actually.

Anyone who knows comics knows that's not how characters are typically depicted in Marvel, but with that said, you are still wrong. Thor has several elite strength feats, just not nearly as many as it isn't a point of focus.

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Anyone who knows comics knows that's not how characters are typically depicted in Marvel

You make it seem like this is my problem. It's not.

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Thor has several elite strength feats, just not nearly as many as it isn't a point of focus.

Sure, Thor has objectively high strength feats. Thor does not have objectively high enough strength feats to compete with Superman's objective high strength feats. Not even close.

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You make it seem like this is my problem. It's not.

Sure, Thor has objectively high strength feats. Thor does not have objectively high enough strength feats to compete with Superman's objective high strength feats. Not even close.

It's not a problem, it's a fact. I suppose it could be a problem for you if you deny or discount it.

Thor lifted the nine realms. There isn't anything else to lift when you lift the nine realms.

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Thor lifted the nine realms. There isn't anything else to lift when you lift the nine realms.

BAV, in Team DC's defense, that's an unquantifiable feat (like Hercules 'lifting the heavens").

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