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lord xyz
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I believe, according to the Bible, that arrogance is a sin. Is that correct?
So is lying and ignorance.


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That is correct. I was just focusing on the one I consider to be the main point.


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That is correct. I was just focusing on the one I consider to be the main point.


Ok, then. I would say that one saying that they know God's Will for their lives would not be a sin. I say this because His will for our life is written in the Bible.

Getting to the arrogance Alliance...I guess it all kind of falls into the whole "approach" thing that I have been talking about. JIA seems to be coming off as a little strong in his approach. I do agree that he/she needs to take a step back and evaluate his/her tactics here. I maintain that we are all real people. We are not avatars and sigs, so we need to be careful how we post. Especially when discussing religions as that can get out hand quickly.

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I was just saying that it's arrogant to claim that you know God's will.


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Ok, then. I would say that one saying that they know God's Will for their lives would not be a sin. I say this because His will for our life is written in the Bible.
What, a children's story book written by humans? I suppose next you'll say Moby Dick was the first scientist able to communicate with whales.

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Getting to the arrogance Alliance...I guess it all kind of falls into the whole "approach" thing that I have been talking about. JIA seems to be coming off as a little strong in his approach. I do agree that he/she needs to take a step back and evaluate his/her tactics here. I maintain that we are all real people. We are not avatars and sigs, so we need to be careful how we post. Especially when discussing religions as that can get out hand quickly.
He's saying you're arrogant marcu, not JIA.


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Ok, then. I would say that one saying that they know God's Will for their lives would not be a sin. I say this because His will for our life is written in the Bible.


It is arrogant to judge another, it is stating, using Biblical logic, that the one judging is without sin, and the Bible states that all are sinners and in need of repentance.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

He who was without sin did not cast a stone now did he?

If Christ would not cast a stone, is it not arrogance for JIA to use the Bible to do so? Is it not claiming to know God's will/judgement for another?


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xyz, I don't think that Alliance was referring to me as arrogant. I think he was referring to someone else as arrogant.

If I am wrong Alliance then please correct me dear.

Alliance,

I don't think that it is arrogant to say that one knows God's WIll if one is using that statement in reference to living life on earth. Because the bible would be ones guide to what is pleasing to God. Let me give you an example.

If you needed to know how to make chocolate cookies, you would look in a cookbook and the cookbook would tell you how do to that and wha steps to follow to be succesful at making them cookies right? So, a Christian lives life by using the bible as refernece to Gods WIll for their life. For direction and guidance if you will.

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xyz, I don't think that Alliance was referring to me as arrogant. I think he was referring to someone else as arrogant.

If I am wrong Alliance then please correct me dear.

Alliance,

I don't think that it is arrogant to say that one knows God's WIll if one is using that statement in reference to living life on earth. Because the bible would be ones guide to what is pleasing to God. Let me give you an example.

If you needed to know how to make chocolate cookies, you would look in a cookbook and the cookbook would tell you how do to that and wha steps to follow to be succesful at making them cookies right? So, a Christian lives life by using the bible as refernece to Gods WIll for their life. For direction and guidance if you will.
And how do you know the bible is god's will? It's most likely someone made it up. And it is arrogant to say you know god's will, and others don't.


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And how do you know the bible is god's will? It's most likely someone made it up. And it is arrogant to say you know god's will, and others don't.


Uh, I never said that others don't know God's Will. Sorry if you felt that I had implied such a thing.

I am not here to argue with you xyz. *smiles* We are all people with different views and opinions and I am respecting that.

As far as how I know that the bible is God's Will, well, I am a believer of God. So, therefore i simply believe that to be the truth. Just like you are going by faith that it is opposite.

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Could the Gnostic Bible is Original-Lost Bible

The original Christianity was a form of Hinduism and Buddhism. Gnostic Gospel Bible preached wisdom of Hindus and Buddhists to Christians. Gnostic Christianity preached Hinduism and Buddhism to Jews. Gnostic Gospels ware original canonical gospels. The Christian Church lost the Original Christian Bible, the original Gnostic Gospels, when Church burnt all available copy of all original Christian manuscripts in Egypt, Syria. Apostle Mary Magdalene was the Apostle-in-Chief in early Christianity. Apostle Judas was the favorite disciple of Jesus and Judas identified Jesus to Roman s at the request of Jesus himself. Christian Church, Orthodox as well as Catholic spent millennia from AD 325 to the start of the Renaissance Age ruthlessly establishing patriarchal Christianity by burning at stakes followers of Gnostic Christianity and then trying to maintain its status as a world power. Jesus of Nazareth preached the feminine aspect of god, and patriarchal Jews made the original matriarchal Mystical Christianity into a patriarchal monotheist Christianity.

Could the christianity we have to day really be based on paganism???

http://www.pathlights.com/theselast...s/tract_22d.htm

http://clearblogs.com/clashofreligi...gwan+Kalki.html

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God loves you for your outreach here, do not get me wrong. I just think that maybe you are coming off as a little strong and losing some respect. You are doing God will here by sharing and that is great!!!! Keep that up, just maybe think about changing your apporach!


Yes marcau, I was accusing you of arrogance. Twice in this paragraph, you claim to know god's will.

Now, the Bible was written by man, edited by man, and in some cases totatlly rewritten by man. You can't take it as the specific word of god.
What if you're wrong, I don't think your God would like you speaking for him.


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There are many many passages that were inserted from older pagan writings also............

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There were a LOT of translations errors...like Sea of Reeds to Red Sea.


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If you needed to know how to make chocolate cookies, you would look in a cookbook and the cookbook would tell you how do to that and wha steps to follow to be succesful at making them cookies right? So, a Christian lives life by using the bible as refernece to Gods WIll for their life. For direction and guidance if you will.


Another HORRIBLE and irrelevant analogy as it does nothing to prove your point. The analogies defending the Bible's claim to Truth just keep getting worse and worse... sad


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Another HORRIBLE and irrelevant analogy as it does nothing to prove your point. The analogies defending the Bible's claim to Truth just keep getting worse and worse... sad


That makes me feel good about using bad analogies in response to pro-Biblical ones. One must fight fire with fire.

Though I had hoped that the end of that analogy would be "So Christians will turn chocolate cookies, and God will eat them and enjoy (and put on weight.)


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Christians go straight to your hips.


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Christians go straight to your hips.


But they are so addictive... or maybe I'm thinking of cocaine.


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Cocaine or pixie stix?


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Cocaine or pixie stix?


Pixie stix were disappointing as there weren't actual pixies in them.


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I had one in mine confused


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