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ExtraMision5555
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why do people always mention lightning? why not a hailstorm? massive rain? severe wind?

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Lightning's her fastest attack. And it's still too slow.


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Ok... first of all, a couple of the arguments saying Cyke could take out the opposition in seconds is what his POWERS MIGHT be able to do. Because, Cyke, like everybody else, has to react. He has to flip his visor, or at least register that hes in a battle. After all, its not like Cyke's first reaction after seeing somebody in the street is to shoot them.
Now, that MAY be sufficient time for Storm to either duck behind scenery, or hide behind Cap. Even then , unless one was mind controlled, blood lusted, etc., Cyke would probably be hesitant to take out Storm. I think his first reaction would be to go for Cap, who would probably be much more agressive.

Now, for those of you who say the sheild is only so wide, thats not important. Unless the omni-blast was used, (which wouldn't happen), Captain America, whose reflexes are around peak human, would (most of the time) be able to block them with his sheild. Cyclopses blasts have been dodged in the past, and Cap is an expert with his indestructible sheild.

Then there's Wolverine. He would probably sneak up on Cap, and attack him. Probably subdue or KO him if he got the jump on the Super Soldier. While Cyke was firing.

Seeing this, Storm would realize what she had to do, and fire off lightning, while they were focussed on Cap. And while she takes a slower time to fire them, her lightning is much harder to dodge. She takes out Cyke. If Cap's still concious, he might be able to seperate himself from Wolverine. If not, Wolv's would probably go for Storm anyways. In either scenario, she takes him out faster then he can get to her.


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Originally posted by Brian Oswald
A powerless Storm has doged Cyke's blast before.


I know, I've seen the scans. And I never agreed with it. Unless Storm is in the Spider-Man range of agility and reflexes, she should never be able to dodge such an attack.

Scott has blasted holes through quarters that were tossed up in the air.

And I know that's only one example, but if I sat here trying to relate all of his marksman examples, I'd be here all week.

Storm isn't dodging his blast.


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Originally posted by SpunkySmurph
Ok... first of all, a couple of the arguments saying Cyke could take out the opposition in seconds is what his POWERS MIGHT be able to do. Because, Cyke, like everybody else, has to react. He has to flip his visor, or at least register that hes in a battle. After all, its not like Cyke's first reaction after seeing somebody in the street is to shoot them.
Now, that MAY be sufficient time for Storm to either duck behind scenery, or hide behind Cap. Even then , unless one was mind controlled, blood lusted, etc., Cyke would probably be hesitant to take out Storm. I think his first reaction would be to go for Cap, who would probably be much more agressive.

Now, for those of you who say the sheild is only so wide, thats not important. Unless the omni-blast was used, (which wouldn't happen), Captain America, whose reflexes are around peak human, would (most of the time) be able to block them with his sheild. Cyclopses blasts have been dodged in the past, and Cap is an expert with his indestructible sheild.

Then there's Wolverine. He would probably sneak up on Cap, and attack him. Probably subdue or KO him if he got the jump on the Super Soldier. While Cyke was firing.

Seeing this, Storm would realize what she had to do, and fire off lightning, while they were focussed on Cap. And while she takes a slower time to fire them, her lightning is much harder to dodge. She takes out Cyke. If Cap's still concious, he might be able to seperate himself from Wolverine. If not, Wolv's would probably go for Storm anyways. In either scenario, she takes him out faster then he can get to her.


Under different circumstances, I might agree with you.

However, seeing as the thread-starter didn't say this was a random occurrence fight, that's not how it happens. Unless otherwise stated, they start off facing each other.

Facing each other, there's no way Scott is going to miss Ororo. She can't react in time to dodge the blast.

With her down, it's an easy defeat of Captain America for the win.


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Originally posted by Brian Oswald
A powerless Storm has doged Cyke's blast before.


In a fight where it was later stated that Madelyne was mentally affecting Scott.

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In a fight where it was later stated that Madelyne was mentally affecting Scott.


Oh yea. Good point. Almost forgot that.


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ah, silent master beat me to it.


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...She still dodged his shots. Displaying agility if anything

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Scott/Logan ftw. Cyclops can fire his weapon much faster than Storm(she has to summon her powers and all that BS!). Cyxclops should obliterate Cap.

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...She still dodged his shots. Displaying agility if anything


True.

Notice how everything depends on Cyke taking out Storm before she can react.

What happens if Cap use his peak human reflexes to anticipate and block Cyke's optic blast with his sheild?

IIRC, Cap's Vibranium-Adimantium shield would absorb a lot Cyke's optic blast kinetic energy.

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Im going for Cap and Storm.

Storm very quickly ducks behind Cap's shield, then fries them all.

Or

How fast can she summon winds? Coz perhaps as the blast was coming at her, she could control the winds and air molecules to deflect it somehow?

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Sigh...

Cap and Storm ARE NOT THE FLASH.

It takes a fraction of a second for Cyke to unleash his optic blast. And then they travel at the speed of light. They CANNOT react fast enough to dodge/block this attack.

If Cyke had really, truly wanted Storm down (and when he's not being mentally hindered), he would easily do it.

Cyke takes out Storm immediately. There will be no "Cap shielding her at the last second". There won't be a second for him to react.

Then it's Cyke and Wolverine vs. Cap.


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even if cap did block the oncoming blast from clops don't think its like a bullet he has to shoot one at a time. while clops is keeping them busy wolverine can make the distance and turn it into close quarters.


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