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Shakyamunison
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Prove that demons do not exist.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. To say that demons do not exist is not extraordinary because none have ever been observed in nature. However, saying that something that has never been observed in nature does exists is extraordinary. Therefore, the burden of is on you, and you must also provide extraordinary proof.


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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. To say that demons do not exist is not extraordinary because none have ever been observed in nature. However, saying that something that has never been observed in nature does exists is extraordinary. Therefore, the burden of is on you, and you must also provide extraordinary proof.



The burden is not on me because I am not the one making the challenge. You said that demons do no exist, so the burden is on you to prove this statement.

The effect of demons have been observed in nature. Read up on demon possession pal. Many people who have no religious beliefs whatsoever have seen demon-possessed individuals (who by the way were atheists at the time of their possession).


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The burden is not on me because I am not the one making the challenge. You said that demons do no exist, so the burden is on you to prove this statement.

The effect of demons have been observed in nature. Read up on demon possession pal. Many people who have no religious beliefs whatsoever have seen demon-possessed individuals (who by the way were atheists at the time of their possession).


Any person can become mentally ill. However, there is not proof of demon.

Try reading this carefully:

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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. To say that demons do not exist is not extraordinary because none have ever been observed in nature. However, saying that something that has never been observed in nature does exists is extraordinary. Therefore, the burden of is on you, and you must also provide extraordinary proof.


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Any person can become mentally ill. However, there is not proof of demon.

Try reading this carefully:


I am not talking about mental illness. There are real cases of demonic possession of those who do not believe in demons.


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I am not talking about mental illness. There are real cases of demonic possession of those who do not believe in demons.


There are NO real cases of demon possession. 100% of them of are caused by other factors like mental illness.


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There are NO real cases of demon possession. 100% of them of are caused by other factors like mental illness.


Provide support for what you have just stated and I will confute it.


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Provide support for what you have just stated and I will confute it.


If I said invisible Unicorns caused car accidents, could you prove to me that they don't? You can't; that is why the burden of proof is on you still. I am not making an extraordinary, you are.


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If I said invisible Unicorns caused car accidents, could you prove to me that they don't? You can't; that is why the burden of proof is on you still. I am not making an extraordinary, you are.


There is no basis for believing in invisible unicorns, but there is credible evidence for the existence of demons. Now, prove that demons do not exist.


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There is no basis for believing in invisible unicorns, but there is credible evidence for the existence of demons. Now, prove that demons do not exist.


Provide an example of a person who was possessed.


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God is a God of law. Just as the law of gravity is definite, having grave consequences if violated, the law of sin and death also is fixed, having grave consequences. The Bible states that the wages of sin is death. There are no exceptions to this rule. Just as there is a Heaven to gain, there is a Hell to shun. Don't blame God if you end up in Hell, remember: He gave you a choice where you go.


But it's not death in hell....you are alive forever. That is...last I checked....quite the opposite of death.


And either he is a lying turd or he is not as powerful as you say, then he is bound by law and what makes him that special then? Just another wanker who can't do what he wants.


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Has anyone made a 7 minutes in heaven joke yet?


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There is no basis for believing in invisible unicorns, but there is credible evidence for the existence of demons. Now, prove that demons do not exist.


There is just as much basis for believing in invisible unicorns as demons. Again you are basing your beliefs of popularity. More people believe in demons then invisible unicorns. However, at one time in the past, it was believed by most people, that the Earth was flat. This overwhelming belief in the flat Earth did not change the fact that the Earth is a ball in space. Because people believe in demons does not make it true.


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and where is this creditable evidence? you need to be prepared to offer up any evidence you say exists.


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FUK GOD AND JESUS AND FUK YOU JESUSISALIVE YOU IGNORANT PEICE OF CRAP. GET A FUKING GRIP OF YOUR SELF SON. HOW I WISH WE COULD JUST ELIMINATE ALL RELIGION FROM THE WORLD, IT WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE.

Off to hell I go.

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and where is this creditable evidence? you need to be prepared to offer up any evidence you say exists.



confused Do you believe that the Earth is flat?


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confused Do you believe that the Earth is flat?

I was talking about demons.


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I was talking about demons.


You want me to prove that something does not exist? If Demons truly exist, it should be easier for you to prove that they do exist. I can't prove a negative. This is not a problem with me; it is a common principle in science. Proof requires evidence, and the lack of evidence is not proof of anything. It is not unreasonable to say that something that has never been observed in nature does not exist. However, to say that this unobserved thing does exist is extraordinary. At one time black holes where not observed in nature. The burden of proof was on those who believed that black holes existed. They then discovered them in nature and proved their point. If you say that demons exist, the burden of proof is on you, just like those who claimed that black holes existed. If I say they do not exist, the only proof I have to show is that they have not been observed in nature, and the lack of evidence is not proof.


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Thanks laughing
You poo out of your bladder?! confused


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You poo out of your bladder?! confused


And it really hurt. eek! laughing out loud


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