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This thread was not created to convert atheists to theism, let alone to a particular brand of theism. Your posts are totally irrelevant to the topic at hand. The topic is why an individual would choose atheism and the logic/rationale that leads them to this stance along with a debate of said logic/rationale. The discussion should be relevant to a rational, logical and scientific state and not defined by Christianity or any other religion unless the subject turns that direction.

Your posts have nothing at all relevant in them to the question posed in the initiating post, nor any of the following posts. If you want to speak to a topic address it in one of the threads you have already created on the subject. Here is a list of threads that were created for the purpose your post here addresses, there are more, but here are a couple:

What Do You Believe? Here Is What We Believe:
The fool has said in his/her heart there is no God
God loves all of you even if no one else does


Regret, do you believe as the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ has always existed and that (in His incarnation only) He was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary (who was a virgin at the time)?


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Regret, do you believe as the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ has always existed and that (in His incarnation only) He was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary (who was a virgin at the time)?
Again, wrong topic for this thread.


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I wasn't stating that they claimed that the bacteria had intelligence. \

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Well then which defenition better defines intelligence. This is what this whole argument is about.

The Golden Gate Bridge and a plank across a creek may serve the same purpose, but they are not the same. And clearly one is a bridge where the other is really not.

The comparison of salt concentrations is a chemical process. There is nothing really intelligent about it. Comparing Communism and Socialism....that is a sign of intellignece.


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Don't let the enemy (satan) deceive you, receive Christ into your heart and life. Hell abounds with atheists. If they could turn back the hands of time they would desperately reach for Jesus and the chance to go to Heaven. But there is no more hope for them. Don't be numbered among them. The Holy Spirit bears witness that what I speak is Truth.

Jesus Christ is Lord. Do you want eternal life? Then admit that you are a sinner, then ask Jesus Christ to give you life eternal. Jesus does not condemn you, He died for you. Will you accept Jesus now? This good news is for anyone to take advantage of. God loves the world and gave His only Begotten Son, that whoever [this includes you] believes in Him shall not perish, but have everlasting life.

Love (i.e. Jesus Christ) wants to take you out of darkness and into His marvelous light. Will you accept? Jesus' heart desire is to give you everlasting love, life, joy, peace, comfort, happiness, glory, and sin-free consciousness. Will you receive His love? Simply ask Jesus Christ to save you from sin, satan, and from Hell. Repent: turn away from sin after admitting that you are a sinner. Jesus will wash away every sin and pour out His love upon you. The words that I speak to you are the true sayings of God Almighty. Read the Bible and see that the Lord is good. He is not holding anything against you. He has not condemned you. Jesus came to save souls not condemn them. Love--Jesus Christ--will wait for your decision. If you should choose satan, your decision will be honored by God. But choose Life, choose the Prince of Peace, choose Jesus Christ, the Son of God and you will receive eternal life. This good news is for everyone and anyone else who reads it


Yeah thanks for that, that was really helpful. For some reason I want to accept Jesus Christ. You know why? Because you said I should.

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Well then which defenition better defines intelligence.


With regard to the above, may I repeat an earlier post...

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"If we limit 'intelligence' to an organism willfully using subjective 'as ifs' as a means of understanding and controlling the objective world--applying mental maps--then we refer to organisms with differentiated mapping systems: nervous systems. This differentiation allows the organism to get perspective (however vague or clear-cut) on its own subjective experience so that willful deployment of maps can occur. Along this vein, bacteria are not intelligent (they have no nervous system), though clearly they have the capacity to be aware of and adapt to their environment thanks to far simpler biomolecular processes.

In a nutshell: you don't have to be intelligent to learn, just aware, because intelligence encompasses more than just learning from the past. It also involves anticipating the future, especially if you do something to bring about a desired outcome."
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As used elsewhere in this thread, this is why I don't think "intelligence" is the appropriate term.


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Regret, do you believe as the Bible teaches that Jesus Christ has always existed and that (in His incarnation only) He was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary (who was a virgin at the time)?


Holy Mary Mother of God! Jesus age Christ! Don't you have ANYTHING! else to say? You keep repeating yourself and repeating yourself. We get it! People don't like to be preached at, contrary to how you might have been raised to believe.

Ush did a fine job by closing his last redundant thread. If you guys just ignore him and the mods keep closing his new threads, maybe he'll stfu.


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I like the nutshell thumb up

...and awareness is a property of all biological macormolecules. Proteins fold naturally into their active state. All they need to do this is to be placed in H20. That is sensing the environment and reacting to it, but its clearly not intelligence.


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If you guys just ignore him and the mods keep closing his new threads, maybe he'll stfu.


Valid. I myself am enacting this hypothesis. I encourage others to join the Brotherhood of Selective Silence (BOSS).


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Valid. I myself am enacting this hypothesis. I encourage others to join the Brotherhood of Selective Silence (BOSS).


You can call it what ever you want, but it has to be a group effort. Because I put Jackie on my ignore list too, and everyone keeps quoting her. So I have to read her verbal diarrhea anyway.


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I just wanted to call it BOSS smile. So I made up an acronym for it.


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Valid. I myself am enacting this hypothesis. I encourage others to join the Brotherhood of Selective Silence (BOSS).
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