Ok. I wonder in what way it's more powerful. I don't question it, just wondering what it means.
Different sources say differently, apparently. The second appendix and the chapter in silmarillion "about the rings of power" says gil-galad gave it to cirdan. but unfinished tales says he got in directly form Celebrimbor, the elf who forged the elven rings.
I'd trust the Sil over UT in that case, I use UT when no other source as such is available. However all were ideas of Tolkein at some point.
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I don't know if I'd say that. The UT goes farther into depth of certain storys in the Silm, therefore {one would think} giving more information. Those margins and notes give a lot of information BTW.
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True, I trust UT when the stories don't contradict those in the Sil. If they just add information or are a totally different story then I'll always trust UT just not if its saying the opposite of the Sil.
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So elf = stronger? ... hell no.
if you would have taken the time and read what I and thefallen discussed on this very thread you would find that the rings of power doesn't boost physically.
And tell me where it says in the book that Elrond is a fighter at all. He aint.
Yup, he was a healer, we have no real specific proof of his abilities as far as I know. All we can do is assume, and though abscence of proof is not proof of abscence, I think we have enough on Aragorn to say that he can to the least fight Elrond to a close, and most likely win....
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Elrond all the way! In experience alone, he helped get the one ring back originally.
Also he has plenty of magic to use. Don't forget the film missed the bit that it was Elrond that created the river wash to get rid of the black riders when arwen was taking frondo to rivendell, so he has more than just healing powers.
Although i think aragorn is fantastic, in this fight, it has to be Elrond.
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Re: Elrond vs Aragorn
This is foolish, apparently you don't read the books. As a great Elvin lord, Elrond is quite beyond even the skills of Aragon. Pitted against lower ranked Elves like Legolas that's one thing, but Elrond? Not a chance. Some of the posters here, quite up on thier JRR say otherwise- but how do you get past the obvious superiority inherent in Elves over men (even men descended from Westerness)? Elves clarely have greater speed, strength, reflexes to men... and I just can't buy Elrond as a simple healer/scholar type. I don't recall ever reading one way or the other in the books, but why assume this? The sons of Elrond are wariors, why not Elrond himself?
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Elrond was a warrior, but he swore that he would never fight again after the betrayal of Isiuldur. He then became a healer, but still had all of his years of warfare and training.
Aragorn was a powerful fighter, but his skills were spread out between survival and fighting, and he had less time to learn either of them- especially when compared with elrond's thousands of years.
Elrond wins hands down, if you could convince him to fight.
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