Ah yes. "And verily, Jesus said to them, 'I don't like you. Get the **** out.'" Luke, isn't it?
Well, maybe he didn't say that exactly. Paul, on the other hand, said that if people weren't receptive to your teachings, you should go away and leave them alone, something JIA could learn from.
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Don' t assume that you know our views. You can make guesses, but try not to act on or base much on them. The more you assume about us, the more likely it is that some of your assumptions will be wrong. The most of us are open to a wide variety of religious and spiritual ideas. What right do you think you have to tell others to get out?
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I agree with Storm. These forum were not created to serve your narrow sense of "truth." If you hate it so much here, please leave. Unproductive and unhappy members are not good for the forum.
You are forgetting the most important fallacy about the Bible Codes... It isn't hard to find something you are specifically looking for, especially if it has already happened. I am certain you could mix and match and find the word combination 'Jesus died for our sins' or 'George W. Bush wins in 2004' in just about any thick book.
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They are cool though especially the ones in the Torah......first five books of the bible.........And yet didn't the Bible say not to take every spirit as truth.........couldn't this just be another spirit Jesus talked about if you're going by the bible.........
That's the magical catch, the Bible Code people can't foretell the future with the Bible since it hasn't happened yet. They can only find things that happened already by mixing and matching words and letters then claim "Ah ha, the Bible predicted it thousands of years ago and it has come to pass!"
Like I said, go get Moby Dick or any other word heavy book and you can 'predict' the future all day long, make a messiah out of Herman Melville or any other author you like. I am certain you could find the phrase 'Rapture going down July 14th 2009' if you looked hard enough.
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Because everybody shows you up as wrong? Yes, I can see how that makes you sad.
You don't know if you agree with what he is saying? The rest of that section makes you sound like an JIA clone, only an offensive war-mongering one.
Keep on trying? What job do the Christians have? As far as I know Christians are not: a. the world police, b. the global authority on morality, c. the one true religion, d. somehow exceptional when compared to other religions e. responsible for anybody but themselves.
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Thats just not true. The fact that so much is in a small area is what makes it so impossible. The codes within Moby Dick have nowhere near the abundance, nor are the relevant terms contained within such a small area. Nor do they use nearly as short of intervals. The ELS is the most significant part of the true Bible Codes. Moby Dick can not stand up to a true analysis. If 'Jesus died for our sins' was in a thick book it would not be significant unless it was by short intervals and grouped with other words pertaining to Jesus like the wealth of relevant information contained within Isaiah 52-53. What are the odds that the names of the twelve disciples (ironically discluding Judas and including Matthias) would be contained within such a short passage, especially one pertaining to the coming Messiah? It is absolutely astronomical. Combine that with all the other codes discovered that I would be happy to divulge if need be and it should be obvious that this is no thing of chance. It is an impossibility.
And the Bible Codes should not be used to determine the future because the Bible forbids it. Also, it is extremely hard to predict certain events before they happen.
The people here that have read 'The Bible Codes' by Michael Drosnin should disregard it as he does not use scientific method nor enough in depth research. Try 'The Signature of God' or my reference book 'The Mysterious Bible Codes' both by Grant R. Jeffrey. It is reliable and peer reviewed work that stands up to scrutiny.
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Isn't it regarded as fact by most theologians that "the rapture" was simply something amped up by the Catholic Church, based on certain statements in the Old Testament? [I can't remember the book from which these statements came....]
And, to answer the thread, I'm not convinced. Christians have been predicting the end of the world since the time of Christ himself. And guess what: It's never happened!
But seriously, I just don't believe in a rapture....and, to be honest, I don't know many people who wouldn't be left on Earth to face the end during a rapture....
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