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I'd put him at low-level superhuman strength. I can't recall him ever doing anything too outrageous with his strength. Maybe 5 tonner at best.
Spider-Man has been unable to KO Wolverine, even after downing him and going all out with all his speed and strength, so Venom should have a tough time of it.
Thing could KO Wolverine, but not in the first hit, and certainly not before Wolverine seriously injures him.
When you say "classic" Iron Man do you mean the original Grey Armor? Because I'm pretty sure that version only increased Tony's strength 10 fold, which would only make the suit capable of 2 or 3 tons at best. And Wolverine's strength is probably pretty close to 2 tons himself.
Why would you even bother asking this question anyway? We all know Wolverine resists Ko from the strongest being on the planet. What more is there to say?

Midnighter should have a very difficult time KOing Wolverine.
his skeletons are bonded by adamantium! so tat makes him more durable plus he has one of the fastest healing factors in marvel jus below the hulk

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man do you get defensive about wolverine. calling the wolf a third-rate ripoff is the same fallacy as the currency thing...their only similarity is a healing factor. i only bring it up because there seems to be a question of whether midnighter could harm wolverine. considering that the beast had to be FATALLY wounded every couple of seconds just to keep him off his feet, i would say his healing factor is better than the vast majority of wolverine's appearances. the thing also appeared to have superhuman speed and strength, as well as some sharp claws of his own.

yeah yeah, wolverine has a massive fighting skills advantage (in regards to the wolf thing) as well as adamantium. but midnighter is rarely handed a defeatm and certainly not by street levelers.

intelligence: midnighter
tactics: midnighter
strength: midnighter
speed: midnighter
reflexes: midnighter
fighting: wolverine
healing: wolverine

most of these advantages are slight, but i feel like midnighter is consistantly portrayed as tougher.
did u noe wolverine can go berserk anytime he wants? and if he were to his movement are unpredicatble i say one blow from him would be enuff

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Wolverine is constantly surrounded by gorgeous women in Skin-tight spandex but midnighter?


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Wolverine is in Skin Tight Yellow Spandex.

He is gay right?


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Wolverine is in Skin Tight Yellow Spandex.
He is gay right?
Namor wears a little speedo.

He is gay right?

Rocky wore yellow trunks in his first fight with Apollo. Yellow = badass.

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Namor wears a little speedo.

He is gay right?

Rocky wore yellow trunks in his first fight with Apollo. Yellow = badass.


you never know namor MIGHT be.. I mean he's willingly fought a naked wolverine... TWICE....

who the hell is crazy enough to fight a naked man?!?!?


crazy? or gay like a fox..


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midnighter is the better, faster, more efficient fighter. he's like a gay deathstroke/batman.

midnighter 7/10


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midnighter is the better, faster, more efficient fighter. he's like a gay deathstroke/batman.

midnighter 7/10


Except...he's better than both. erm.


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acutually i put that down but decided meh, and backspaced. laughing


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Wolverine has been put down be numerious non superhuman foes in hand to hand . the short list ...

Mr. X

Daredevil

Iron Fist

Shang Shi

Electra

Stick


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Wolverine has been put down be numerious non superhuman foes in hand to hand . the short list ...

Mr. X

Daredevil

Iron Fist

Shang Shi

Electra

Stick


Thats a pretty bad list. The only person on that list that has actually beat Wolverine is Mr. X. Daredevil and Elektra managed to briefly incapacitated him in highly circumstantial situations. Shang Chi has never even landed a hit on Wolverine before. Iron Fist? He managed to through Wolverine out a window once but they have never even fought before. Stick has various superpowers and Wolverine still managed to fight him to a stand still and he admitted to holding back.

Even so convincing arguments have been made in favor of DD over Midnighter.


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always thought logan's extra long claws are an accident waiting to grab centre stage. Midnighter is quick, cute and smooth enough to lead Logan into self decapitation with extreme ease

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Wolverine has been put down be numerious non superhuman foes in hand to hand . the short list ...

Mr. X

Yes but he's a telepathing martial artist that even defeated Taskmaster. X was whupping guys armored to the teeth while on his cell phone. Logan had the advantage last.

Daredevil

Daredevil knows esteroic pressure-point fighting, plus Logan was not KO'ed but just gasping for air. He would have recovered. In that same issue Daredevil KO'ed Spiderman.


Iron Fist

Nope, Danny hits were not even hurting Logan.

Shang Shi

Nope Logan had the upperhand on Shang Chi who was at the disadvantage.

Electra

Wrong again Electra was mostly just dodging Logan. She did not put Logan down in the sense that he was KO'ed.

Stick


Wrong again.

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Wolverine has been put down be numerious non superhuman foes in hand to hand . the short list ...

Mr. X

Daredevil

Iron Fist

Shang Shi

Electra

Stick

You forgot Deer.


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Wolverine has been put down be numerious non superhuman foes in hand to hand . the short list ...

why do I have a feeling this list will suck.


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Mr. X.

is also the guy who speed blizt taskmaster. Also Logan has defeated Mr.X more times then the other way around

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Daredevil.

really when was this? Last time I checked logan beat DD in 3 pannels using just hand 2 hand combat

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Iron Fist.

IF has never defeated logan in combat how ever logan defeated a guy who had IF powers and who was better then IF and PWNed IF.

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Shang Shi

Lieing is a bad idea. Logan PWN shang-chi in I hink it was 6 pannels.

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Electra

When did she beat logan? Also she superhuman.

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Stick

Another lie. Stick and wolverine stalemated, but logan was on the winning end.

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Namor wears a little speedo.

He is gay right?

Rocky wore yellow trunks in his first fight with Apollo. Yellow = badass.


Oh ye, loads in his Black Suit. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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why do I have a feeling this list will suck.



is also the guy who speed blizt taskmaster. Also Logan has defeated Mr.X more times then the other way around
they have fought only once and Mr .X was toying with wolvie so he would reach a beserker rage, becausr Mr. X wanted a true fight with wolvie and he still beat him within an inch of his life. and at the end of the book Wolvie said that he was humiliated by X .

really when was this? Last time I checked logan beat DD in 3 pannels using just hand 2 hand combat
I remember them fighting during the Infinity war storyline, and DD won he kept hiting Logan in vital spots over ond over.

IF has never defeated logan in combat how ever logan defeated a guy who had IF powers and who was better then IF and PWNed IF.
during the Iron Fist/Wolverine crosover. in the first issue (it was a four issue series) they fought and (the new, younger) Iron Fist won.


Lieing is a bad idea. Logan PWN shang-chi in I hink it was 6 pannels.
Shang-Shi fought multiple X-Men at the same time, including Wolvie and won. (allthough it was crazy that they fought after Shang-Shi came to them for help


When did she beat logan? Also she superhuman.
She's not superhuman, and she beat Logan during the enimie mine storyline (during the time where he was going on a rampage in the sheild helecarrier)


Another lie. Stick and wolverine stalemated, but logan was on the
winning end.
absolute falshood. Stick beat Logan till he was almost unconsious, then helped him up and said "pup you still have a lot to learn" (this was right after he stopped being "death" for Apolypse.



get your facts right b4 accusing a TRUE comic fan of not knowing facts.


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