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The Midnighter vs. Wolverine
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Originally posted by Starscream M
against Midnighter?

Not sure how if Logan loses to Omega Red or Hulk factors into Midnighter's odds of winning.
Right, because clearly I'm projecting Omega Red and Hulk onto Midnighter for the sake of my argument. Your straw-man fails-

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Ah, what the heck. I'll give that one to you. You straw-manned me successfully. Don't let anybody tell you different. It's our secret.
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ODG, thats not a mystery. That's just a function of KMC rules...which tends to remove PIS.

ie, by same logic Flash loses alot in comics yet is very tough to beat on KMC threads. Do you consider that wacky too?
Right, PIS accounts for every time Wolverine lost a fight in comics. I'm aware of this rambling assumption that underpins every pro-Wolverine argument.


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ODG, thats not a mystery. That's just a function of KMC rules...which tends to remove PIS.

ie, by same logic Flash loses alot in comics yet is very tough to beat on KMC threads. Do you consider that wacky too?

damn, right i do!!!


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Right, because clearly I'm projecting Omega Red and Hulk onto Midnighter for the sake of my argument. Your straw-man fails-

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Ah, what the heck. I'll give that one to you. You straw-manned me successfully. Don't let anybody tell you different. It's our secret.
well when has he lost to someone on MN's level without any PIS involved or the writer forgetting his HF?


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^ Brace yourself: Wolverine's lost fights before. Case? What case?

You mean the unsolved mystery as to how Wolverine always wins in vs threads on these boards... despite how many times he flat out loses in comics?

That case ain't closed.


laughing out loud Only if he won them all! tsk


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well when has he lost to someone on MN's level without any PIS involved or the writer forgetting his HF?
We both don't agree on what you even believe is PIS.

I call anything not approaching SMvFL or BPvSS to be simply: IDLI, IDH. If it approaches or surpasses that level... it's legitimate PIS.

You call anything suggesting Wolverine can lose a fight as being: PIS. If it actually confirms Wolverine can lose a fight.. it's ZOMGWTFBBQPIS.

There is a fundamental disconnect here that won't be remedied by trying to answer your loaded question.


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^ Brace yourself: Wolverine's lost fights before. Case? What case?

You mean the unsolved mystery as to how Wolverine always wins in vs threads on these boards... despite how many times he flat out loses in comics?

That case ain't closed.



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We both don't agree on what you even believe is PIS.

I call anything not approaching SMvFL or BPvSS to be simply: IDLI, IDH.

You call anything suggesting/confirming Wolverine can lose a fight as being: ZOMGWTFPIS.
lol

I think you're confusing me for Jinzin or Dum Dum Dugan

I am no hardcore Logan fanboy and have often argued against him in threads (just ask the aforementioned loganboys)

Your point is well-taken however, as I agree with your premise regarding what constitutes PIS in general. I do feel the forum has a tendency to label anything not in 100% conformity of their view of a character as PIS.


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^ It's convenient to do so. Which is why you hear it so often. Watch:

Midnighter fought Zealot for hours. I arbitrarily declare it PIS. Accordingly, it has no premise here. Jukko, after turning off all of Midnighter's computer/physical enhancements, beating Midnighter. I arbitrarily declare this is PIS also. Accordingly, it has no premise here either. Anytime someone below Superman-levels beat Midnighter is also PIS.

Wow. Midnighter's so uber... as long as you arbitrarily declare anything that suggests he has vulnerabilities to be PIS for no phucking reason.


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hey you're preaching to the choir regarding the PIS concept

But who has beaten logan in your opinion makes you think MN would have a shot at winning?


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Lets stick Mid up against the foes that Logan has fought and lets see how well is does.


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^ By that reasoning Cap and Spiderman beat Wolverine easy. I like where you're going with this.


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Lets stick Mid up against what foes that Logan has fought and lets see how well is does.
In general I'm against this kind of idea.


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^ By that reasoning Cap and Spiderman beat Wolverine easy. I like where you're going with this.
sure if midnighter can replicate the exact circumstance for said losses...


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Just keep with in th realm of Mid/Logan and dont branch off to far.


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^ By that reasoning Cap and Spiderman beat Wolverine easy. I like where you're going with this.
um..not sure i follow your logic

how would cap and spiderman do against sabretooth, omega red, gorgon, cyber...etc...pretty terribly in my estimation


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well then.. i see midnighter shield bashing wolverine after wolverine has bn mind controlled and used like a puppet with a laptop after weeks of fighting brought to the brink of his limit.. i could see midnighter hitting him with his Pole and knocking him out


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how would Mid do against sabretooth, omega red, gorgon, cyber...etc...pretty terribly in my estimation



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um..not sure i follow your logic

how would wolverine do against red skull w/ cosmic cube, the entire sinister six simultaneously, korvac, juggernaut...etc...pretty terribly in my estimation
Fixed.

I'm beginning to see the appeal of such logic more and more. I feel closer to Wolverine fans more than ever.


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um..not sure i follow your logic

how would cap and spiderman do against sabretooth, omega red, gorgon...etc...pretty terribly in my estimation
Without choosing sides or anything but these one's would murder Wolverine aswell in a forum fight...


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the problem some one here is failing to grasp is context in order to support his opinion.


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