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Kento
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Originally posted by carver9
I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about since I read both Manga AND Marvel/DC comics. Everything I said was true and is backed by on panel showings.
laughing Ah same old carver. How's it been.


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laughing Ah same old carver. How's it been.


LOL, its been good, I miss debating against you all, its been a while but I think you all need to create some fights on the american vs anime forum so that I can stomp you all like I did in the past. wink


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You know carver, I would respond to you, but then I realized you posted no actual arguments at all, just baseless claims with no evidence.


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Originally posted by carver9
LOL, its been good, I miss debating against you all, its been a while but I think you all need to create some fights on the american vs anime forum so that I can stomp you all like I did in the past. wink
eek! Big words little man.


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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros

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Originally posted by carver9
I think he is if we compare what each has taken and how the body look after taking it. Example, Goku has been rambed and crushed into moutains and leveled by punches that shook the area that they were fighting in.

Superman was elbowed in the stomach and rambed into a mountain and was actually koed.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...t666666/9-5.jpg


That's an elbow from *Doomsday*. He was out before the mountain, that was just to add insult to injury, and there's not a lot to tell how much impact was involved (I'm guessing also he had a bit of a beating before this).

Superman has smashed through mountains etc. etc. plenty of times before.

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HERALDS VS Z FIGHTERS

Silver Surfer and Morg vs Goku,vegeta, Frieza, Kid buu, Trunks and Gohan.

I thought of adding stardust to the herald side but that would make it too lopsided.


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Originally posted by carver9
I think he is if we compare what each has taken and how the body look after taking it. Example, Goku has been rambed and crushed into moutains and leveled by punches that shook the area that they were fighting in.

Superman was elbowed in the stomach and rambed into a mountain and was actually koed.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...t666666/9-5.jpg


Now that's strange...

He took 2 planet at the same time but he was KO'd by Doomsday's elbow (Which is very slow)? Another inconsistencies...


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Thing is, people use different basis for their arguments. Mike here for instance shares the fixation of cherry picking feats and ignore the rest.

Whereas I imagine that most of you have a wider spectrum were you take the mean value derived from your observations and use that as the basis for your argument.

As for manga and western comics in general, manga relies heavily on the power of one. We all saw how Gohan one-shotted Cell Jr. who were at the level of Vegeta and Trunks, who in turn trained for another year in the Room of Time and Spirit before the Cell Games.

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Originally posted by Naija boy
HERALDS VS Z FIGHTERS

Silver Surfer and Morg vs Goku,vegeta, Frieza, Kid buu, Trunks and Gohan.

I thought of adding stardust to the herald side but that would make it too lopsided.

If this is carver9's version of Goku, Goku solos. stick out tongue
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Mike here for instance shares the fixation of cherry picking feats and ignore the rest.

To be utterly fair, you did a similar thing here. It was from the low end, but similar nonetheless.
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I'm telling you, Sasuke is not going to have problems with what Batman can one-shot without the use of a plot device.

Endless Mike generally makes good calls from what I've seen.
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Originally posted by carver9
I know EXACTLY what I'm talking about since I read both Manga AND Marvel/DC comics. Everything I said was true and is backed by on panel showings.

That is the problem. You probably know what you're doing. You take information, put a poorly constructed spin on it, and present the same information under a flimsy mask of impartiality. The ruse is so transparent that people, like Ms.Marvel, theorize "There is no way he thinks he'll fool anyone with that, so.... he....he must... HOLY CRAP HE MUST ACTUALLY BELIVE IT! If he actually believes that then...
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Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
wow [He]...really [has] no idea what [he is] talking about " o.o

She even used the incredulous face thingy to show the end result of the mental process I highlighted. Spot on Ms.Marvel. Spot on.

I harbor no ill will towards you of course, regardless of how abrasive my post may feel. I simply offer an observation on the negative sentiment following you around in the various forums.

I do have a question for you though, carver9. It's no secret that you consider Thor above the other high heralds(Supes/Surfer/Hal/etc). How do you think he fares against Goku?

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Ignore Astner, he's just butthurt since he got laughed out of NF. If I really 'cherry picked' feats I would mention stuff like Superman vs. Dominus and Hulk thunderclapping away a dimension all the time but I consider those to be outliers generally.


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Hulk thunderclapping away a dimension
Is using this one ever even valid? Wasn't there circumstances to it from the combining of his thunderclap, and the attack he blew away?


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You guys know Luffy could probably beat any version of Spider-Man up to the Iron Spider suit version


Respectfully disagreed.


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Re: ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros

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Originally posted by Ryobe Ronin
Who do you think would win in a fight between ANIME Fighters and AMERICAN Superheros?

THIS WEEKS BATTLES

Goku VS Superman

Vegeta VS Wolverine

THE HULK VS Good Majin Buu

Piccolo VS Blade

Naruto VS Robin

Van Helsing VS Spike

Flash VS Rock Lee

Batman VS Inuyasha

Green Lantern VS Sasuke

Wonder Woman VS Android 18

Daredevil VS Krillin

Fantastic Four VS Team Yusuke

Cyclops VS Kakashi Sensai

Elektra VS Sakura

Spiderman VS Lupe (one piece, sorry if I spelled his name wrong)


Goku VS Superman..... Goku

Vegeta VS Wolverine..... Vegeta

THE HULK VS Good Majin Buu.... Good Buu turns him into chocolate

Piccolo VS Blade.... Piccolo (not sure which Blade you mean)

Naruto VS Robin.... Naruto

Van Helsing VS Spike.... Spike (Cowboy Bebop?)

Flash VS Rock Lee.... Flash

Batman VS Inuyasha..... Inuyasha (sends him to hell with his black tetsaiga... i cant remember the name)

Green Lantern VS Sasuke.... Sasuke? (idk i dont know much about the Green Lantern)

Wonder Woman VS Android 18... 18

Daredevil VS Krillin.... Krillin

Fantastic Four VS Team Yusuke... Team Yuske

Cyclops VS Kakashi Sensai.... Kakashi

Elektra VS Sakura... Sakura

Spiderman VS Lupe (one piece, sorry if I spelled his name wrong).... Spiderman ( not sure who Lupe is)

I refuse to read 102 pages... thats gonna take WAY too long

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'Lupe' is supposed to be 'Luffy'. And he'd beat Spider-man. Stronger, practically immune to impacts, and has super-speed.


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Originally posted by Naija boy
HERALDS VS Z FIGHTERS

Silver Surfer and Morg vs Goku,vegeta, Frieza, Kid buu, Trunks and Gohan.

I thought of adding stardust to the herald side but that would make it too lopsided.

I forgot to add a more serious answer.

In all honesty, an argument could made for Silver Surfer soloing. Opening up a black hole would wreak havoc on the DBZ team.
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Ignore Astner, he's just butthurt since he got laughed out of NF. If I really 'cherry picked' feats I would mention stuff like Superman vs. Dominus and Hulk thunderclapping away a dimension all the time but I consider those to be outliers generally.

Understood.

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To be utterly fair, you did a similar thing here. It was from the low end, but similar nonetheless.

Wrong, I said that the outcome depended on the Green Lantern used. I further referred to the fodder that was taken out by Batman. That's his entire comic career, being taken out by Batman.

What you're suggesting would be something along the lines of taking a vintage showing of Kyle Rayner being knocked out by Batman and base my argument around that.

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Ignore Astner, he's just butthurt since he got laughed out of NF.

You've mentioned a couple of times how important your reputation in the OBD is to you, even here in the KMC. I'm proud to inform you that I don't share that trait, especially when it comes to the OBD.

Unlike Zetta--I was temporarily suspended and not permanently banned--so I could return at any time. But the fact that most of you are dimwitted wannabe intellectuals with tendencies to substitute arguments with insults when cornered essentially makes it pointless.

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If I really 'cherry picked' feats I would mention stuff like Superman vs. Dominus and Hulk thunderclapping away a dimension all the time but I consider those to be outliers generally.

No you do cherry pick feats, mixing alternate versions of Superman varying from the CoIE era to 52 that doesn't directly violate your power scaling system.

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Wrong, I said that the outcome depended on the Green Lantern used. I further referred to the fodder that was taken out by Batman. That's his entire comic career, being taken out by Batman.

What you're suggesting would be something along the lines of taking a vintage showing of Kyle Rayner being knocked out by Batman and base my argument around that.


You've mentioned a couple of times how important your reputation in the OBD is to you, even here in the KMC. I'm proud to inform you that I don't share that trait, especially when it comes to the OBD.

Unlike Zetta--I was temporarily suspended and not permanently banned--so I could return at any time. But the fact that most of you are dimwitted wannabe intellectuals with tendencies to substitute arguments with insults when cornered essentially makes it pointless.


The OBD rules actually prevent that, shows what you know.


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No you do cherry pick feats, mixing alternate versions of Superman varying from the CoIE era to 52 that doesn't directly violate your power scaling system.


Right, because I reference Pre-Crisis feats casually for Post-Crisis Superman roll eyes (sarcastic)

When have I ever done that? If you're trying to say that Infinite Crisis or 52 retconned the entire DC History like COIE is, that's bullshit and I have several scans that disprove that.


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ill take all anime. its just that you have to look at it how they a in the movie or show and pin them agianst each other. and some anime characters are out there such as goku and vegta. way to powerful

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Originally posted by Endless Mike
The OBD rules actually prevent that, shows what you know.

True enough, it shows that my perception isn't as restricted as yours. There is nothing hindering people from debating outside of the OBD, either on a completely different site or simply in another forum.

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Right, because I reference Pre-Crisis feats casually for Post-Crisis Superman roll eyes (sarcastic)

When have I ever done that?

This entire page. The thread has nothing to do with Pre-crisis Superman, there are no requests or such. Yet you make an elaborate explanation of his powers and capabilities. You might as well have addressed Wolverine in that thread because he'd have equal relevance.

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If you're trying to say that Infinite Crisis or 52 retconned the entire DC History like COIE is, that's bullshit and I have several scans that disprove that.

I never did, not even as an indication. The fact remains that Earth-1 Superman isn't the mainstream version. So instead of putting words in my mouth address what I actually say. Or better yet go back to the OBD where you're welcome.

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