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I don't think Dumbledore would split his soul apart. he seemed pretty much against it in HBP.

It looks like he's lost forever.

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Sadly, yes. But hell, I think it was his time. Coming back from the dead isn't always good, living for a long time is pretty hard. I think Dumbledore is happy dead.


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Dumbledore had no purpose left in the books...he has passed all his knowledge on to Harry, and he would do nothing but hinder Harry in the future. Dumbledore HAD to die.


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thats true.............................................I think


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Maybe it was somebody's maiden name, like, Mcgonnagol's brother or something.


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i dunno


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Dumbledore isn't gone...are you guys kidding me? I do remember reading something about a portrait of Dumbledore appearing in the Headmaster's office. Plus, the Sword of Godric Gryffindor is still in Dumbledore's office. If the school closes it would allow someone to sneak in and steal it for Voldy to perform another Horcrux to spare his life.

I think that when Harry finds Snape...he won't kill him. Snape was protecting a student, just as Dumbledore would have protected Harry. Dumbledore wasn't the threat, but leaving him alive would be unspeakable for Draco and Snape. I think Harry will understand that...if Snape can get off his Angry High Horse.

Harry will return to Hogwarts. There is a lot of help still within those walls for him. So the school isn't out of the picture. I think it will be the final battle place for Harry and Voldemort. Dumbledore was very insistant that Tom wanted to stay at Hogwarts. I think that he'll go back there to end things, as that is where they began.

I also think we may find out that Harry is a descendant of Gryffindor...just a far fetched theory, but not all that impossible. What do we really know of James Potter's family history? Nothing, but we know tons about Sirius' family history and Lilly's family History...so I would assume, as in all final chapters...that all things are brought to light and made right again.

Harry is a Horcrux, that is more obvious than anything. As with all spells, where there is a way to make them, there is a way to break them. Harry just has to find that way. And I think he will...or Hermione will.

That is all...I will add more later. I'm tired.


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Dumbledore isn't gone...are you guys kidding me? I do remember reading something about a portrait of Dumbledore appearing in the Headmaster's office. Plus, the Sword of Godric Gryffindor is still in Dumbledore's office. If the school closes it would allow someone to sneak in and steal it for Voldy to perform another Horcrux to spare his life.

I think that when Harry finds Snape...he won't kill him. Snape was protecting a student, just as Dumbledore would have protected Harry. Dumbledore wasn't the threat, but leaving him alive would be unspeakable for Draco and Snape. I think Harry will understand that...if Snape can get off his Angry High Horse.

Harry will return to Hogwarts. There is a lot of help still within those walls for him. So the school isn't out of the picture. I think it will be the final battle place for Harry and Voldemort. Dumbledore was very insistant that Tom wanted to stay at Hogwarts. I think that he'll go back there to end things, as that is where they began.

I also think we may find out that Harry is a descendant of Gryffindor...just a far fetched theory, but not all that impossible. What do we really know of James Potter's family history? Nothing, but we know tons about Sirius' family history and Lilly's family History...so I would assume, as in all final chapters...that all things are brought to light and made right again.

Harry is a Horcrux, that is more obvious than anything. As with all spells, where there is a way to make them, there is a way to break them. Harry just has to find that way. And I think he will...or Hermione will.

That is all...I will add more later. I'm tired.

I think this Harry is a Horcrux idea is wrong. And portraits can only repeat catchphrases, they don't have a mind of their own.

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Remember the prophecy, neither can live while the other survives. ONE of them kills the OTHER. So Harry cannot kill himself that way. And wasn't it Slughorn who said that creatures with life still in them don't exactly make good horcruxes?


it says neither can live while the oither survives. Doesn't say anything about both of them dying... Anyways, thats how I'd end the book, cos I'm an evil angsty person and it'd make a good twist! big grin

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Originally posted by NightCrawler341
I am half thinking it was Regulus but... How would he be able to do it alone? Wouldn't he need help drinking it like Dumbledore? I think R.A.B. might be three people, but the fact that it might be at Black's house is high and I agree with that. And Harry being one of the horcrux... no. Because Harry has to destroy all of them before he could defeat Voldemort, which means he will have to kill himself before killing him.... which I don't really thinks possible.


no, I meant he kills himself snd takes Voldie with him... Also, that would be another reason why he's the only one to vanquish the dark lord - no matter who else tries, Harry has to destroy himself to destrroy voldie.


And also, maybe thats why regulus died? cos he drank all thst water? Then he didn't want to have voldies horcrux at his house, which is why siri says something about he got into deep and tried to back out

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Originally posted by Saratn
I have two different theories, that may prove that Dumbledore may come back to life. First remember in OOTP how the Time Turners were destroyed, what if someone had a spare somewhere and they use it to bring back Dumbleore. Another theory is about the horcruxes. Slughorn was saying that you need to split your soul or something like that. And Voldemort killed to make his horcruxes stronger. What if their is something similar to that without the killing, then Dumbledore could come back. It sounds wild, but those could be possibilities. I'm sure Dumbledore isn't gone forever.


well it says it needs the power of a death, a murder... what if dumbledore used the power of his own death to make a horcrux?

Not that I think he would, because they went on and on about how the splitting of a soul is a well evil thing to do...

Another thing to back up my idea of harry being a horcrux - Voldie's bit of soul in harry would explain the connection they have, emotions, posssion etc, and why he was IN the snake - nagini was another horcrux

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Originally posted by Saberstylemasta
Maybe it was somebody's maiden name, like, Mcgonnagol's brother or something.


what makes you think mcgonnagalls married..?

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Originally posted by Kella


Harry is a Horcrux, that is more obvious than anything. As with all spells, where there is a way to make them, there is a way to break them. Harry just has to find that way. And I think he will...or Hermione will.

That is all...I will add more later. I'm tired.



Yay, someone else agrees with me! big grin

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I think this Harry is a Horcrux idea is wrong. And portraits can only repeat catchphrases, they don't have a mind of their own.


I don't think your right about the portrait thing. Fat Lady is always chatting to students, and the Headmasters/mistresses of Hogwarts chat to Dumbledore all the time and run errands etc, they are sentient

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I don't think your right about the portrait thing. Fat Lady is always chatting to students, and the Headmasters/mistresses of Hogwarts chat to Dumbledore all the time and run errands etc, they are sentient

I'm just repeating what JK said.

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Well I'm just repeating what JK has said through her books! wink


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Well I'm just repeating what JK has said through her books! wink

The portraits don't say anything new though, they just say stuff that they would have said in real life. Phineas Nigellus hates kids, Mrs Blacks, screams at traitors, Sir Cadogan acts Barmy. Just catchphrases.

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I want to find out that Harry is a descendant of Godric Gryffindor. That would be cool.

Hints of this are:
*When Harry tried out his wand red and gold sparks came out, Gryffindor's colours.
*He pulled the sword out of the hat.
* He's in Gryffindor house.

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Harry is a Horcrux, that is more obvious than anything. As with all spells, where there is a way to make them, there is a way to break them. Harry just has to find that way. And I think he will...or Hermione will.

That is all...I will add more later. I'm tired.



I can't see Harry being a horcrux for one thing we know that Voldemort actually set out to kill harry and it just backfired, he had already set up his horcruxes by this point and would have no need of making more than seven since this was his 'magic number'.


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Originally posted by TheSun
The portraits don't say anything new though, they just say stuff that they would have said in real life. Phineas Nigellus hates kids, Mrs Blacks, screams at traitors, Sir Cadogan acts Barmy. Just catchphrases.


These are not direct quotes, but Everard and Dyllis (?) are sent by dumbledore when arthur is attacked. They say something like, he looks terrible, I've found him etc. This is a brand new situation, they understand what dumbledore says to them and they are set a task. Therefore, they are not just moving pictures repeating catchphrases, there is some sort of life to them

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