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WTF? - Hulk's more powerful than Pre-crisis Superman?
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Originally posted by golem370
Lets just say that as physical non Cosmic beings there is no one on there level of strength when both are in Bloodlust


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Lets just say that as physical non Cosmic beings there is no one on there level of strength when both are in Bloodlust
very rational of you everybody wins

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Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.

Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.

Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.

...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years. laughing out loud


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Notice they never once mention Superman's speed feats, where Hulk doesn't even come close in terms of showings.

Or the fact that he has ranged attacks, which could decimate the Hulk while Kal wouldn't be getting touched.

Partial information is a dangerous thing. ...and it's ony by ignoring the entirety of the evidence that anyone could make a legitimate argument for the Hulk.

...still, funny stuff. I can see that being half the fanboys on this forum in about 15 years. laughing out loud
that wasnt what they were getting at they were talking about streght only

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that wasnt what they were getting at they were talking about streght only


I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate.


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I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate.
true sups owns hulk due to versitilty

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I understand, but the way they were talking about it in both videos made it seem like the Hulk should win the entire fight. The strength question isn't really the debate.


Superman did comment on Hulk's speed in one of those fights


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Superman did comment on Hulk's speed in one of those fights


He also compliments half the heroes in DC, saying they're his equal....before saving the day with feats that surpass pretty much any of them. So that's not saying much.

Speedblitz to outerspace ftw. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Yeah...same way he's faced dozens of "Single toughest opponent I've ever faced" before. It doesn't really matter what he said though; fact of the matter is Hulk is a slug to Superman when it comes to speed.


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ya know i would just like to inject this oppinion the hulk isnt slow with all that mucsle he can acctually move pretty quick it's his bulk that slows him down


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hulk weighs about 1000lbs. he's high cl100. how much would his 'bulk' affect him? confused

hulk is fast relative to you and i. hulk is not even in motion compared to someone of superman's speed.

i can't believe this battle is still discussed and that doubt exists in anyone's mind.


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pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.

Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).

With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.

Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.


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what wrong with this ?

Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.

BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.

The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...

at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down

Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog

i asked him on alvaro's comic book


"Sure. Why not."

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Originally posted by h1a8
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.

Also Stan Lee himself in an interview said himself that he created Thor to be stronger than the Hulk since he was a god and hulk was not. He didn't like the fact that Hulk was shown to overpower Thor on occassions (such as in the new avengers movie).

With that said, one cannot go by low showings to prove something but by using the best of a character's abilities. Usually fights are a popularity contest. That means we would have a lot of jobbing.
If two very strong character's are to face head up then most likely the one who is more popular (the bigger cash cow) will win.

Everyone knows truly that gladiator would utterly destroy 616 colossus.
His strength, speed, durability, and different other powers are many times greater than colossus.
Yet colossus went toe to toe with him to the end. This was written out of popularity and is straight SmvFL.


good post, but don't forget the hulk beat thor in annual 2001 (he beat him down with 3 only blows, and could have killed him if he only wanted); and he beat him again in Thor# 385 while Thor never beat the hulk

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They weren't posing very strong arguements.


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Originally posted by DevilGoblin
what wrong with this ?

Everyone knows that The Hulk is stronger than Superman (even pre-crisis); all the hulk needs to do is getting angrier and stronger than his opponent.

BTW:He was the gravage hulk, and nothing can change the fact that he smashed and proved to be stronger than Pre Crisis Superman.

The hulk beat foes more powerful than the kryptonian as Onslaught(in the slugfest i mean), The Galaxy Master, Thor (most times), Gladiator...

at normal strenght hulk can be beaten but if really enraged no one can take him down

Peter David said the hulk can beat Mangog

i asked him on alvaro's comic book


"Sure. Why not."

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HULK IZ THE GERATESTEST EVAR!!!


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Originally posted by Juntai
HULK IZ THE GERATESTEST EVAR!!!
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Aren't socks disallowed?

I mean, if a member gets banned, aren't they not allowed to return until that ban is up?

Why must we suffer through all of DevilHulk's utter BULLSHIT?

Ugh -_-.

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Originally posted by h1a8
pre-crisis superman's strength and powers has fluctuated greatly over the years (especially between golden age and silver age).
At times superman strength shown to be so great that one time (golden age) he was dragging about a dozen planets with a chain faster than light speed to another star system for relocation. Other writers had him much weaker (especially in silver age). Thus Pre-crisis isn't consistent. To say that such and such happened to pre-crisis superman is just a low showing. Remember on this forum it is known that low showings sometimes contradict with high ones. So that is why forum rules say to use the best of a character's ability. This avoids any contradiction.



The Golden Age Superman and the Silver Age Superman are two separate people.

Golden Age= Kal-L
Silver Age= Kal-El

When people talk about Pre-Crisis Superman they’re usually referring to the Silver Age version. The Silver Age Superman is the Superman that was ridiculously powerful, it was him as Superboy that was moving an entire Solar System worth of planets, not the Kal-L. Kal-L used to struggle with skyscrapers while Kal-El even as a boy could move planets without any difficulty.

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