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Originally posted by Healing Artisan
this is opinion.

Kane is a legend, but i'd pick Kool Keith and G Rap instead of Kane.
not me. KRS One, maybe.


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not me. KRS One, maybe.
they started the music we here enjoy, but nowadays, MC's are much more evolved lyrically.


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they started the music we here enjoy, but nowadays, MC's are much more evolved lyrically.
I was listening to Doug E Fresh last night. AMAZING.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was listening to Doug E Fresh last night. AMAZING.


This guy is like a time machine.

You sound like you're in 1988 listening to all this music for the first time.

I can't wait till it's 2027 so I can hear you talk about how amazing Aesop Rock is.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I was listening to Doug E Fresh last night. AMAZING.
you quoted me with a post that wasn't relevant to what i said. i'm saying today's MC's are much more evolved lyrically, and you're saying how Doug E Fresh is amazing.

yea the guy is great without a doubt, but as a said, guyz like Aesop Rock, One Be Lo etc...are lyrically more creative.


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Originally posted by Healing Artisan
you quoted me with a post that wasn't relevant to what i said. i'm saying today's MC's are much more evolved lyrically, and you're saying how Doug E Fresh is amazing.

yea the guy is great without a doubt, but as a said, guyz like Aesop Rock, One Be Lo etc...are lyrically more creative.
yes, I chose to ignore that stupid remark. Todays artists more evolved lyrically? are you on crack? old school rap is superior in every way to new school rap.

today, all artists sound the same.


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yes, I chose to ignore that stupid remark. Todays artists more evolved lyrically? are you on crack? old school rap is superior in every way to new school rap.

today, all artists sound the same.


What artists have you actually heard since 1993?

Artists have definitely evolved. Lyrics are more complex now then say, 1991. Rakim was amazing given the time he was in. He set the bar, but you're telling me cell phones from '98 are as advanced as they are now? Times change and mc's get better.


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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
yes, I chose to ignore that stupid remark. Todays artists more evolved lyrically? are you on crack? old school rap is superior in every way to new school rap.

today, all artists sound the same.
you're listening to the wrong hip hop music, and that's a fact. what have you heard? 50 cent? TI? thats garbage

im not talking about most of the commercial garbage on television and radio.

Binary Star- Reality Check



modern day real hip hop music.

here are the lyrics

quote:
[Intro]
(I have a request tonite...when you here this..that is the introduction)
scratching....(do you love pianos?)

This is how I represent I rock the mic 110 percent
It's intimate, I keeps the party moving like a imigrant
Binary Star, superstar its no coincidence
Every verse is intricate, this ain't a circus in a tent
We don't get down like them clowns and the kids
I'm use to being indegent, who said its all about the Benjamin's?
I wanna fortune, I wanna make music and hit the lottery
Fortunately my music is never watery
That's how its gotta be, as far as I can see
Maybe you should grab a telescope to see my veiw its like astronomy
It aint all about economy
so the fact that these wack emcees is making G's don't bother me
Honestly, my number one policy is quality
never sell my soul is my philosophy
High velocity, lyrics like Nastradamus make a prophecy
I told you cats a long time a go it ain't no stoppin' me
I bomb your set that's not a threat its a promise
Got everybody ridin' on my wagon like the Amish
But still I never claim to be a big rap star
So no matter who you are its still Allah who act God
Better believe this, most rappers can't achieve this
I'm bad to the bone but x-rays can't even see this
See I'm strategic I letcha money talk bullshit walk
While I keep it rollin' like parapalegics
Whoever's on the microphone let it be known
You in danger, I got next(necks) like the Boston Strangler
You ain't never heard an emcee speak like this
And Rodney King ain't never felt a beat like this

Voice: (That is the Main theme)... scratching.. ( I wanna know something else)


Get a grip on yourself cuz you ain't grippin mines
Life and times, outta lies rap guys outta line careers I finalize
collide with this seranade cyanide you apply for Silla's high
The thing that makes killa's high
Hang 'em high by the gold link necktie
And drain 'em dry into tempest eye now you ain't God
so you ain't that high wanna be aeronautic
And get swatted for actin' fly
Masterminds crafty rhymes, I'll rip from drafty lines
that chill spines like the Alpines, runnin up on some natural binds
A close encounter of the worst kind
Go ask the cats that heard I'm lyrical turpentine
Who wanna taste mine I gotta carry hill on the wasteline
God give the bassline so let the phlegm fly
I survive seven-five through the M-ine, when I forcefully Jedi
On the wooze I red-eye, heads fly bet I, sharpshoot dead-eye
Snooze crews bed bye, Mary lou flippin' I pistol pump grippin
I stompin, I semper-fi represent, temper high, signify
Walkin round ain't nothin similar
Like a Gemini, in this perimeter sublimin-ie
Cats be cut dry more why I wet guys
I be rainin precipitation 'til it's one inch your neck high
Less fly kids misguide, without an alibi
Who said you rap tight? You come unraveled by
Slice of this rap scalpel, guys quick as apple pie
I'm learned in old schools of thought and shit you baffled by
Conceptual intellectual fireslide
Silla oxide rhymes flow like a rockslide
you musta forgot I, have your ass knockneed and cockeyed
Bruised, battered, broken up, walkin, cut dipped in peroxide
Death to the Pop Fly

( I usualy don't do request numbers)... scratching..
( unless of course I have been asked to do so)...


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Obviously this guy hasn't heard much hip-hop if he put a singer-songwriter in his top 10 list. I can see that the latest artist he's listened to has been DMX. wacko


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Rogue Jedi, listen to this and wake up please. I'm sure you've never heard of Blackalicious and Gift of Gab, but they'll show you that today's hip-hop isn't as bad as you think it is. WAKE UP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJ6xbrWHQ

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH2bqTc88ns


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Rogue Jedi, listen to this and wake up please. I'm sure you've never heard of Blackalicious and Gift of Gab, but they'll show you that today's hip-hop isn't as bad as you think it is. WAKE UP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dJ6xbrWHQ

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH2bqTc88ns
hey, I never said they stink, all I said was that old school rappers were superior lyricists.

I suppose you think 50 cent is better than LL Cool J.


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hey, I never said they stink, all I said was that old school rappers were superior lyricists.

I suppose you think 50 cent is better than LL Cool J.


Please watch those videos before you go and say some dumb sh*t like that.

Watch them and then come come with whatever you have to say.

Gift of Gab >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LL Cool J + DMX

Again, watch the videos and then we can have a serious conversation.


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Originally posted by D00m
Please watch those videos before you go and say some dumb sh*t like that.

Watch them and then come come with whatever you have to say.

Gift of Gab >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LL Cool J + DMX

Again, watch the videos and then we can have a serious conversation.
dood. settle down, I will watch them and give you an honest opinion.


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dood. settle down, I will watch them and give you an honest opinion.


I am calm, but I can't help but get annoyed when you bring up 50 Cent. Man, I know he sucks. I'm talking about MC's that are artists. Not just puppets making millions off of pre-teen girls and people who think it's cool to be a "gangster".

Listen to the lyrics of both videos and tell me what you think. Thank you.


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Originally posted by D00m
Please watch those videos before you go and say some dumb sh*t like that.

Watch them and then come come with whatever you have to say.

Gift of Gab >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LL Cool J + DMX

Again, watch the videos and then we can have a serious conversation.
watched them. and yes, I have heard vaguely of Blackalicious. the first vid and song is pretty good, I will admit. the second is....well, not to my liking. pretty good lyrics though.


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I am calm, but I can't help but get annoyed when you bring up 50 Cent. Man, I know he sucks. I'm talking about MC's that are artists. Not just puppets making millions off of pre-teen girls and people who think it's cool to be a "gangster".

Listen to the lyrics of both videos and tell me what you think. Thank you.
I just did, settle down man.


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watched them. and yes, I have heard vaguely of Blackalicious. the first vid and song is pretty good, I will admit. the second is....well, not to my liking. pretty good lyrics though.


The second video isn't Gab at the top of his lyrical game, but his lyrics are still better than LL Cool J's and that song is still great.

I'm just trying to tell you that there are some MC's with amazing lyrics today. That blow a lot old school shit out of the water. I'm not talking about 50, Young Buck, TI, or any of those crappy artists either.


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The second video isn't Gab at the top of his lyrical game, but his lyrics are still better than LL Cool J's and that song is still great.

I'm just trying to tell you that there are some MC's with amazing lyrics today. That blow a lot old school shit out of the water. I'm not talking about 50, Young Buck, TI, or any of those crappy artists either.
point taken, just like there are some old school rappers who blow the new ones outta the water.

better than LL? I will pretend I didnt hear that.


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Well yes, Big Daddy Kane is better than 50 cent. There's no question, but you make it seem like nobody can compete with any old school rappers.

and yes, Gift of Gab lyrically is a 100 times better than LL Cool J. Listen to an actual Blackalicious album and then you can make a legitimate argument. Until then you're just going on what you "think" and not what you actually know.

I've heard albums from both artists and let me tell you, lyrically there is no competition. Gab blows him away.

and anyway, have you heard the shit LL does today?? He's more worried about his abs than he is music.


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Well yes, Big Daddy Kane is better than 50 cent. There's no question, but you make it seem like nobody can compete with any old school rappers.

and yes, Gift of Gab lyrically is a 100 times better than LL Cool J. Listen to an actual Blackalicious album and then you can make a legitimate argument. Until then you're just going on what you "think" and not what you actually know.

I've heard albums from both artists and let me tell you, lyrically there is no competition. Gab blows him away.

and anyway, have you heard the shit LL does today?? He's more worried about his abs than he is music.
I wil admit that uncle LL has gone out of his way to show off his abs.

You ever hear a rap song where the beat was badass, but the lyrics are unbelievably horrible?


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