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Galan007
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Heres some further proof that Marvel: The End was cannon:

In the official bio's from the Annihilation series, when you look up Thanos, under Threat Level it says:

"Universal/One time reality ender"

Heres the scans, look under Threat Level:
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Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:
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Now,

Thanos was a Universal Threat when he held the IG, and even the cosmic cube, but was he a reality ender at this point?

The only time Thanos has truly ended all of reality was when he possessed THOTI.

I'm not saying whether or not Thanos destroyed a Universe or a Multiverse, I'm just providing additional proof that "The End" arch was in fact cannonical.


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Originally posted by Galan007
Heres some further proof that Marvel: The End was cannon:

In the official bio's from the Annihilation series, when you look up Thanos, under Threat Level it says:

"Universal/One time reality ender"

Heres the scans, look under Threat Level:
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Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:
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Now,

Thanos was a Universal Threat when he held the IG, and even the cosmic cube, but was he a reality ender at this point?

The only time Thanos has truly ended all of reality was when he possessed THOTI.

I'm not saying whether or not Thanos destroyed a Universe or a Multiverse, I'm just providing additional proof that "The End" arch was in fact cannonical.

You consider THAT proof ? Two words from a website ?

Andy Schmidt said : out of continuity. That's good enough for me.


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Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
You consider THAT proof ? Two words from a website ?

Andy Schmidt said : out of continuity. That's good enough for me.
Website?

That bio is from a comic book my friend......

Its from the Nova Corps Files in the Annihilation series roll eyes (sarcastic)


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Galan007
Heres some further proof that Marvel: The End was cannon:

In the official bio's from the Annihilation series, when you look up Thanos, under Threat Level it says:

"Universal/One time reality ender"

Heres the scans, look under Threat Level:
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Here it is outlined in red, so you don't miss it:
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Now,

Thanos was a Universal Threat when he held the IG, and even the cosmic cube, but was he a reality ender at this point?

The only time Thanos has truly ended all of reality was when he possessed THOTI.

I'm not saying whether or not Thanos destroyed a Universe or a Multiverse, I'm just providing additional proof that "The End" arch was in fact cannonical.


Or, at least some parts of it were. Didn't another poster provide the proof that said that certain Earth 4321 events also happened in 616?


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Can we all agree that The End is not in Continuity?

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Originally posted by Soljer
Or, at least some parts of it were. Didn't another poster provide the proof that said that certain Earth 4321 events also happened in 616?


I'm just going by what was stated in the Annihilation bio...


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Originally posted by Galan007
Website?

That bio is from a comic book my friend......

Its from the Nova Corps Files in the Annihilation series roll eyes (sarcastic)

Okay.

Still no proof whatsoever.


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Okay.

Still no proof whatsoever.
I think its descent proof seeing as how its stated on pannel...


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You know, cannon is only what readers want to be. Only editors and vs-debaters care for "cannon".


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Originally posted by Horrificus
http://x-mencomics.com/xfan/forums/...2495&page=1
That Quote was taken in August of 2003

By Tom's own definition Marvel: The End was non-cannonical untill a later story made it so...

And by the pannel evidence I posted, The Annihilation arch seemingly made Marvel: The End cannonical.



EDIT:

Also if you go to the actual site, you will find Tom confirming that Marvel: The End has since been confirmed as cannon....

This quote is a few posts below the quote that Horrificus chose to highlight.


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problem with editor-speak is this: writers do not always choose to follow what the editor 'recommends'. 'memos' seem to get lost occasionally. hyperspace is a recent case in point. editors at dc say hyperspace no longer exists. and yet currently the linear men still exist and hyperspace has been mentioned in numerous recent books. erm

similarly with THE END. editors can 'say' what they'd like. i'll remain consistent and say that what is shown in books is what should be the ultimate arbiter in these cases. more than one book refers to the events in THE END. despite what editors want to claim, that makes it canon imo -- at least until an official retcon takes place.

on-panel proof>editor-speak imo.


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on-panel proof>editor-speak imo.


I agree.


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Originally posted by Galan007
EDIT:

Also if you go to the actual site, you will find Tom confirming that Marvel: The End has since been confirmed as cannon....

This quote is a few posts below the quote that Horrificus chose to highlight.


nice find. wink

so can we all agree and say it IS canon . . .? shifty


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Originally posted by Galan007
That Quote was taken in August of 2003

By Tom's own definition Marvel: The End was non-cannonical untill a later story made it so...

And by the pannel evidence I posted, The Annihilation arch seemingly made Marvel: The End cannonical.



EDIT:

Also if you go to the actual site, you will find Tom confirming that Marvel: The End has since been confirmed as cannon....

This quote is a few posts below the quote that Horrificus chose to highlight.

In this statement, he does not say it is definitely in continuity.
He says that the evidence may be implying that it is.
I see you are referring to this:

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Originally posted by Horrificus
In this statement, he does not say it is definitely in continuity.
He says that the evidence may be implying that it is.
I see you are referring to this:
That statment certainly leads to "The End" being more cannonical then not...


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In this statement, he does not say it is definitely in continuity.
He says that the evidence may be implying that it is.
I see you are referring to this:

The only definite answer he has ever given, is that it is not in continuity.
But, I admit he seems to be considering other options at the time of this interview.
But, again, he does not state that he has changed his stance on it yet.

After the statement he makes, showing doubt, he immediately turns around and says this:

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I have no stake in whether this story is in Continuity or not.
Either way, it does nothing to my interpretation of the story effecting Universes, while posing a threat to the Multiverse and dealing with M Bodies of Eternity, Infinity and LT.

But, it would seem that there is a LOT of evidence against this story being In Continuity. You guys decide.

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Andy Schmidt's comments on "The End" were made a couple of months ago.
http://forums.comicbookresources.co...mp;postcount=80

It seems the official Marvel view of it is that the events in "The End" happened in Earth-4321 but were also mirrored in 616 to some extent. And Thanos did end reality from the comments in Thanos profile in Annihilation (Which Andy Schmidt edits). But this does seem somewhat of a cheap cop out to what Starlin wrote in Thanos #2.


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i'm curious: i can't read the link cuz i'm at work and the filter prevents me. but does that imply that it was earth-4321 and its universe that were 'ended'? or was 616 ALSO 'ended'?

if it were the MULTIVERSE that thanos polished off, then obviously even if it DID happen in 4321 it would STILL have impacted 616 . . .


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